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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone recording in process? Chris Black coming to you from New York City. Them jeans. What's good? I just took a piss and I seen codeine coming out. Okay, great. Thank you. That was the update I wasn't expecting but needed to hear. No, I actually, I was just thinking that I just started taking a new multivitamin. I realized that I'm not really taking vitamins, you know? Oh, man, I wish I could say the same. God, I wish I could say the same. So, I mean, I take things that I eat a rich diet full of vitamins and I try to get my vitamins from food. as we're in our 40s now, you need a little... A little extra. You need a little A2, B12 bump. A little extra. Yeah, yeah. But I took... There's this brand called Thorn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which you've probably heard of. They're like expensive, nice ones. And I just got some, you know, daily multivitamin thingy. The senior formula. And when I tell you this shit was looking like... lemon lime gatorade with the umami turned all the way to 11. i know that's the problem with vitamins they make you think something's wrong you know what i mean they think oh shit my kidneys ain't working right you know but it's actually good for you we've discussed this before i actually i like it because you see that it's working yeah i like working out hard saunaing blah blah blah and then it makes you feel as if

You've done a hard day's work. Yeah, I understand that. If it comes out clear, you're living a life that's not full of enough strife. Yeah, I'm sure that's what that is. You're not being challenged enough if your pee is always clear. But Thorne's like a DTC, like they got a $100 million startup vibe, right? I'm sure. I'm sure. I don't know. I'm sure. I've just never clicked into it before because I feel like I can get that at Whole Foods and I don't need it from them. But I'm sure they make it nice and easy. Yeah, I mean, I just got it on Amazon. Oh, I see. I see. I see. I see. Okay. I didn't know if they got you into a pyramid scheme where you have to, you know, you're paying monthly for pills you can't take. Not like my good friends at True Nutrition where they create a scenario where it's kind of subscription only. It's very drug dealer-y. Like, I'm trying to buy the... the key i'm trying i'll settle for a quarter pack but they're like no we're only doing eights 3.5s only so i gotta go cop every week no q no no qp you gotta come back every week and tap in and i'm like let me get let me get the 75 dollar duffel bag full of fucking fresh pow pows not four installments of 22 baby duff don't give me the jacquemus duffels on subscription you want a full size you want a full size ll bean vintage duffel or maybe a patagonia full size i know i mean don't make me rocket money your ass is all i'm saying we should start using rocket money as a threat hey i swear to god i'll rocket money your ass you do that one more time i'm gonna come get what i'm owed yeah turn this plane around your ass keep complaining i'll rocket money your whole shit light light bill rocket money nails done rocket money Has your BM been acting up and you don't really have time to sort through all the finances that you're covering for them? Rocket Money is here for you. Has your BM been acting up? It's funny you bring up BMs because I saw on Twitter that our boy Ish from...

Joe Budden is caught up in some BM drama. He wasn't paying his child support. What kind of drama? Like in terms of legal? Yeah. Has he been penalized? I mean, his BM is posting like NYC.gov, you know, like this is the case number type shit on Twitter. Yeah, it's not great for him. Praying for him. Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm praying. I mean, I don't really know if Ish is a good or bad person. I just assume that everybody on the Joe Budden podcast is just like... He's a good person. I agree with you. I agree with you. He's a great person. I mean, they're a lovable but flawed character. Sure. They're all from the school of Jim Jones where you're like... I know you mean well deep down inside, but... I'm really trying to go... Bad things have happened. I've asked my editors at GQ to try to get me in touch with Jim Jones because I want to go work out with him and his vamp life. he has a, he has a vamp fitness brand that is like, he's got some trainer and they all do, they do all this crazy shit together and they like sell programs like every other, you know, thoughty dude on Instagram. But I think it would be fun for me to go kind of uptown, probably New Jersey at this point. So it's, it's his version of Mark Wahlberg's municipal. it's not as much of a merchandise push as it is a training program push oh okay yeah because because i think i think basically he's he's probably like all right this is my trainer i've been working together forever i'll pay I'll pay for a bunch of content and then we'll make some money on the back end. It's old school. They're lifting weights in a driveway. The gym they're in looks absolutely shitty. All the equipment's red. That feels aggressive to me. But I'm interested in getting a pump in with gym. I think it could happen. I'm also interested in that program because I feel like... most of the the fitness regimes and and trainers and all these things it's it's not aligned with my lifestyle and i feel like i'm more aligned with jim jones's lifestyle where it's like we're gonna get this little workout in we're gonna do this this and this uh i am gonna smoke a little pcp

Sometime this week, I am going to take a bottle of Remy to the face. It is more closely aligned. I'm going to smoke cigarettes most days. It's not a get ready with me with like a finance guy. My four to nine before my nine to five. It's different for you. You're up late. But Joe, for his age and for the damage that he's done on his body, pause. It looks good. Jim looks good. He's in good shape. Just like who's the other rapper that is in good shape who's doing pull-ups? No, probably Jadakiss went on his juice shit. No, it was Jada. Yeah, Jada's been on his juice stuff. I saw a video of Central Sea. You said juice stuff or juice stuff? Juice. I think he opened a juice bar at some point. Where's It's the Real when we need them? Actually, I saw because I don't mean to. start us off with with drake talk but it's been big news on my tl after his appearance at wireless fest and he brought out all the british rappers and basically glazed them um saying that they're better than than american and i what else is new but i mean i'm a proud american of course and i have to disagree with him but i i was um i think he's doing what he has to do i think he knows he's got a rapt audience and they're gonna be nice to him and i think that it's a smart move to bring out did you know do you know rapper dave who's wildly popular in the uk dave yeah guy called dave he he came out on a stage you know it's like 80 000 people or something and he he looked like He was wearing jean shorts and a polo shirt, and it was all very clean. And I was kind of like, he looked like a little kid. But I also was like, everybody else looks stupid. You actually look the best, but because of the setting, you look insane. Okay, so it's a... You do look the best out of all this somehow, even though you're wearing something that Soulja Boy wore when he was 13. Yeah, it fit better than that, and it was probably like a Stone Island polo. I couldn't see from my vantage point. They weren't Denver Nuggets denim shorts. No, they weren't ankle-grazing NBA team shorts. But yeah, it was just an interesting... I was like, wow, you look like a kid waiting on the bus, but you also are the...

best dressed guy on the stage sign of the times sign of the times but yeah well it's it's interesting and that you said the his audience was wrapped because i think him glazing uk rappers is taking a page out of the renee wrapped playbook by knowing that you have been alienated by a certain group of people in her world yeah that is uh breeders yeah you hate me, I hate you, we can, you know, we are going to be enemies and we'll build together. And then Drake is like, okay, well, you know, America, not so much for me anymore. I'm going to focus my energy and take my talents to Bristol, Cardiff, and a lot of them. I will say, though, I will say. I'm going to go, I'm going to stop hanging out with whoever the... trap rapper du jour is or whoever the 700 my 700 pound rapper the dave and they're like what's what's whiz kid and burna boy and sims and there's so many people doing there's so many i mean i i've really been rocking with skepta lately because the the fredigan song is uh unfortunately undeniably a smash and i hate to i hate to say that but it's just true it's just true but i mean the big the big story obviously i got a lot of texts about was that he brought out vanessa carlton to play a thousand miles which is um i it was really funny because i noticed she posted on instagram something big is coming and like i was like that's not like her that's really funny like she's having a laugh here and then it really was something big came She was doing a wait on it, Big Ting Ziguang album mode style post from Vanessa Carlton. Shout out, Vanessa. I'm going to ask her about it because I need to know. Do you think she got paid a lot or do you think it was just like, I'll put you on the PJ, get you over here, put you at the hotel? You know what I mean? I wonder if he broke her off.

I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so either. I don't think that's how that works. You know what I mean? Like, I'll pay for you to get there and it's going to be extra nice. But it was cool because he just, he didn't try to like, she just played her song and he vibed out. There was no like collaboration, which was kind of sick. So that was it. I mean, I kind of like that. And that is an undeniable hood classic now at this point. It's been sampled a lot. And I think. Sexy Red went over it a long time ago. That was one of her first breakouts. Yeah, I mean, several people have over the years, which is, I mean, the best video is when it's, I think it was the USA Olympic basketball team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the plane. On the plane, singing, the whole. Dry snitching on your damn self. Yeah, it was really funny. Speaking of Sexy Red, how do you feel about her? pitchfork giving her the 7.5 and clips getting the the 6.6 or something like that whatever it was that just justice is served i mean i don't i just don't care about sexy red in any iota like i couldn't care less i don't know why i don't i mean I don't know. I mean, I did go to the Clips album listening party. So I did witness the... So it's clear which side your alliances lean to. I mean, Clips has given us, whether you like them or not, they've given us actual classics. You know what I mean? That like every person respects and knows the words to. It's some of the best Pharrell production of all time. I don't know what Sexy Red has given us yet. She could get there. She could get there. Yeah, yeah. I mean, Clips has had a head start. She's just getting started. I got to say, man, I got to say, Pusha T and No Malice look extremely good for their age. Like, No Malice is in his 50s. Yeah. They look very, very good. I was impressed. What do you think it is? Because they, obviously, you know, for them to be at that age and the lifestyle that they live. is why they look so good. So I don't know. I like my rappers to really be living what they're talking about. And I think Clips might be number one, not living what they're talking about. Well, I hate to say this. I hate to say this, Jason, but unfortunately I think most rappers that have any success are not living what they're talking about. Of course. Of course. And that's why I don't like most rappers.

i mean yeah no i just i guess more so the point i'm making is like everyone is just talking about like oh damn you know clips they're rapping like they're you know they're they're you know basically saying like these guys still sell cocaine yeah they're still on the street they still are moving weight and you know all they do is talk about selling coke and i bet you they don't sell coke they don't do coke They don't even drink. They definitely don't do it. They're having CMOS gel and doing Korean face masks with their wife. I feel like it's somewhere in between that. But yes, I agree with you. I love drug dealer rap. I love talking about selling drugs and doing drugs and all that stuff. It's fun and exciting and a tale as old as time. But if you are... you know in your 50s and you're subscribing to architectural digest and you're going to go to the farmer's market today you know how many more times can you rap about doing coke and selling coke well i it's actually less about running a criminal syndicate i would say that it's less about that than it ever has been to be completely honest. So at least there is some maturity there. There's like, you know, there's like, there's shit about like parents dying that doesn't mention, you know, but, but of course there's every song is going to have some sort of Coke talk, but yeah, it was a funny, it was a, it was presented by Apple music. And of course it was at one of the scammer WSA buildings. Cause they've somehow acquired another one on, on one [redacted address], but it was, they got another one. I got another one. They got Brooklyn too, but Brooklyn's been there for a little bit, but yeah, the, the, The amount of white guys with extremely manicured beards in that listening party was over the... I thought that had kind of died out. I saw guys just... They had it manicured. I mean, it looked like they had... Like some Rory and Mall shit. Extremely. I thought maybe... Well, I thought Joe Budden was going to be there because they had just done his podcast. But I left halfway through because I was like... It was midnight. I couldn't really take it. But the... But I...

it was some Roy and mall shit. That's exactly what it was. Okay. And did you, what was the scene like at this exclusive listening party? It really has like a [redacted address] team feel to it, I gotta say. That's 100% what it was. That's 100%. It felt like, I mean, it was very well done. Like it was really nice and it was on like, you know, the 30th floor of a build. So it was like, and Apple paid for it so it was properly produced because they were, I think you could live stream it. So there were no fights or anything? No, no, no. It was extremely like I worked at, you know, I was the CMO at Complex kind of vibe. You know what I mean? But that's, I mean, I think that's... People brought out their formal Air Force ones. Oh, it was like, oh, there were some crispy Air Force ones for sure. There was some, I mean, the fitted hats had stickers. You know, it was that kind of, we're not messing around tonight. We are not messing around. A lot of kids in the building. You know, actually, I thought I would see more Kith, and I didn't. Thank you for bringing up Kith, because I need to make an admission that I'm not proud of, but I want to share with the group. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, sort of our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world... writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative, but also business minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that. Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could, you know.

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That is facing out like a classic ice cream window situation. So you don't have to go through the Kith store and you can just walk up, you can queue up and get an ice cream. And I wanted ice cream because it's obviously it's summer and it was July 4th weekend. So I was like, you know what? Fuck it. So you deserve a little treat. Yeah, exactly. Fuck it. I'm getting Kith treats. I'm going to try this. And when I tell you that that shit smacked so hard, I cannot. I cannot stress enough how good it was. Okay. It was so good. What exactly did you get? So they do like a soft serve, obviously. So I got vanilla and chocolate swirl, and then they have all these toppings you can put on it. So I opted for Cinnamon Toast Crunch. And they have like some contraption, which I've never seen this before in all of my years of eating ice cream. Contraption. Where they sort of like smash it all together. like they put it in like it looks like a like those videos where they crush stuff didn't you used to go to cold stone all barred out you've seen that shit no cold stone they chopped it up like coke not to bring it back to that you know what i mean they would like they have at cold stone they're on like a what looks like to be a flat top oven with like these two tools so this is like this was like a lever that they pulled and then it comes out all you're talking about the chill grill yeah it's a flat top that freezes things the chill grill so it It came out, and then I got a cone, and the waffle cone Kith logo, I mean, they thought of everything. But it was delicious. But I also want to say it cost $15. Okay, so this was a scoop where they mix in. They smash burger the cinnamon toast crunch into the ice cream, and then they roll it back up into a ball. And then they put it in the Kith waffle cone. But because it's soft serve, I couldn't really see the process. And it took quite a long time, I will say that. Really? Man, I couldn't believe how good it was. I was really, really taken aback. Because I was doing it as a joke. And then I was pleasantly surprised. I think soft serve is really having a strong comeback right now.

I'm pro and con it. What's the place in Silver Lake that I like? Magpies. That shit is good. Yeah, there's places that are popping up that are sort of like under the guise of it being like Japanese imported. Yeah, those are happening here too. Where it's like we've imported this milk from the cows of Hokkaido and then we have this, you know, and it's run by like some fucking... tweaker ass kid who you know has zero work skills and you he he takes the like matcha charcoal waffle cone that tastes like fucking diarrhea and then he just sticks it underneath the soft serve thing pulls the lever and it just slides out like a diarrhea and he hands it to you and he's like steve it's it back in my day we would get a swirl you would you i mean i guess the overarching point is The world is in a bad position when McDonald's is head and shoulders above most other small businesses, restaurants, similar things. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's true. I think it's true. I don't think it's true. From my personal... When's the last time you went to McDonald's? You haven't been in a McDonald's in years. I haven't been inside, but drive-thru. I don't know if I believe you. What do you mean? When's the last time you went through the drive-thru of McDonald's? Maybe like three weeks ago because of soft serve. But it's not a McFlurry. It's just a vanilla chocolate swirl, right? Well, they obviously have an Oreo McFlurry, but I just get the small whatever. Would you consider a McFlurry of soft serve? I feel like a McFlurry is its own thing, sort of. I think the McFlurry is made out of soft serve. Sure, okay, yeah, it's closer to soft serve than ice cream. McDonald's just has ice cream machine, and ice cream machine is broken. Sure, sure, sure, sure. But nobody is hand-scooping like it's salt and straw over McDonald's. But all that is to say, it used to be like you'd go to the mom-and-pop ice cream shop, you'd open the door, and a bell would ring, and a person would greet you, and, hey, would you like some samples, blah, blah, blah, take their time scooping it.

Getting it all there, boom, presenting it to you. It looks perfect. It's too good to eat. And now these sort of like third generation, you know, it's kind of like weed dispenser. You know, it's like the Zaza shopification of soft serve. Okay, so you want to go back to like 90s Cape Cod and walk into a family owned where like high school students are working on their summer break. to give you a scoop of vanilla because that's pure to you. Yeah, that's the ideal scenario. And those places do exist. They do exist, but I don't give a shit about that. It's the new third wave quick fix. We come into town. We spend $50,000 to create this business. We hire some awful Gen Z tweens. Awful Gen Z employees are at every business you're going to find, even a mom and pop. But I'm saying they are not found at McDonald's. And if McDonald's, McDonald's in my mind used to be the bottom of the barrel, and now we have found sub floors to this barrel that were not known before. It's Saddam's hiding place of subdivisions. I think McDonald's is like a, I think it's, obviously a successful business for a reason but it's just i think that i don't think the difference is mcdonald's has like a manager and they're telling people what to do and controlling their employees and then you walk into some place in echo park or ridgewood or wherever and it's just you know two people who are just waiting for their ketamine to show up i actually had some amazing i had an unnamed soft serve place i had i've had some of the most amazing bad service i've ever witnessed like to the point where it's so good it's so funny how little they care and how stone they are that i like it I do a full 180. I'm like, fuck these losers. And then I'm like, what would I do if I was making $[redacted address]? I would be stoned as fuck and not give a shit about this. Because it's not a job that requires any skill. You just have to be sort of nice and take a credit card. I agree. And the problem, or I guess my gripe, is they're not even being nice. And they're not being mean either. They're being just...

flatline nothing. You walk into the door and you're like, hello? Are you guys open? And they're like, nobody cares. Nobody cares. And at least at McDonald's, they're like, hi, how are you? Here's your heart disease food. Have a good day, sir. See you later. That I think is probably true. I think there's more... At McDonald's, they're swirling the soft serve and handing it to you with a smile on their face saying, you have had a hard day. You just paid your good earned money. to get this treat. Your kid's gonna stop crying, whatever it is. Have a nice looking cone. I mean, I could... You go do it in Echo Park. Just matcha doo-doo. There's no... I mean... i don't think you mcdonald's mcdonald's is literally doo-doo like it's defined but i know and i'm saying i've found worse than i wouldn't drive through a mcdonald's i wouldn't i wouldn't use the bathroom in a mcdonald's it's just too much like fast food rest the way that we have made fast food restaurants like a cute treat is disgusting And I don't know where, because it's like, is In-N-Out actually better? Like, I don't know if it's actually better. I think you think it is because it's a better presentation. It doesn't have all the history attached to it. But I think that it's just like that being the little treat for people is so odd to me. Because going into a fast food restaurant disgusts me. And not because I'm a snob. It's because I just don't want anything they have to offer. Going into most... all fast food restaurants is is disgusting you don't want to see how that sausage is made in and out i feel like it's a little different because they're they're saying hey open kitchen watch us do all of this stuff versus because they're saying hey this is touched by god this is blessed by no they're saying christ himself mcdonald's they're commonly known as the greatest french fry in the world you know everyone loves them they think it's magic they think it's blah blah it's it's like a a scientifically grown potato in like this weird giant bunker in in the middle of america they're like they're it's like a fucked up genetically modified potato starch factory thing going on you go to in and out hector's

Making the fries right there. You see him taking a potato, putting it in the squisher, squishing it down. Are you going to start saying that Chipotle is good too because they have an open kitchen? I just don't think that that is. I mean, In-N-Out is fine. I don't care about In-N-Out. But I just think that people thinking like a Chick-fil-A or an In-N-Out or even in some cases a Zaxby's is of a higher grade. It's a higher grade than like Burger King and McDonald's. I just don't think that's actually true. I think it's a. mental thing and we're holding onto it from childhood. And I think it's a little bit of a mind game people play with themselves to justify pigging out. Yeah, you're right. Justify pigging out. And that's fine. If it makes you happy, I'm all for it. I just don't think these places are... I think these places, they all exist on the same plane to me. And when you start giving some different allowances, I don't know if that's actually coming from a place of truth. That could just be... Clever branding and marketing too. Yeah. And more power too, the evil Chick-fil-A corporation, the evil In-N-Out corporation for figuring out that you can get upper middle class 40-year-old creative directors to have a bad boy meal at In-N-Out and take that business away from McDonald's. Fool me twice, shame on me type shit. Exactly, exactly, exactly. But I think it is, yeah, I think it's the, I mean, last night, Lane, David Cho, and Alex and I went to Penny. Double date at the Penny Bar? It was delicious. Is it hard to have a convo when we're all sitting shoulder to shoulder? It's funny you say that. Because Lane's brother is a chef there, we got the corner. Not the corner. Which is the corner. That happened to me. We went with Fran and Jackie to Maddie's Bar Clams in Toronto. I thought about this. I was like, this is going to suck. How are we going to do this? Also put us on a corner. It's actually a great way to dine. But there's one corner. Okay, so how long gone pro tip in the food culinary space? Best way to dine in these scenarios? Know the owner of the restaurant. You got to know the owner of the restaurant. Or the head chef. At least the head chef. But I'm getting at, they have this amazing dessert there that's like a brioche ice cream sandwich. But Cho, being the nasty little freak that he is, had bought the Selena Gomez Oreos.

And wanted me to try them, so he brought them to the restaurant. And I'm thinking to myself, this is similar to what we're talking about. Where it's like, we like all this stuff because it reminds us of childhood, but it's actually so bad. And it's the same thing as going to McDonald's to me. But the Selena Gomez Oreo absolutely fucking smacks. What did Selena do? Did she add a little hot sauce to it or something? No, even better, a horchata. Oh, that's smart. It's good. I mean, Alex said it tasted like a Dunkaroo, and then I couldn't untaste that, which is a really astute observation. And really smart because Oreo is like, all right, we're going to call it the Selena Gomez horchata Oreo cookie. And then they're like, all right, how are we going to make it? And then they go, just add some cinnamon. Yeah, literally. All right, we're done. It's a custom cookie. It has Selena Gomez on the outside. Her name is on it. Sure, sure, sure. On each individual cookie, but yeah, they were delicious, I have to say. I don't know if I'm going to seek them out, you know, but they were good. You know, I feel like we are close to being able to create our own custom bespoke Oreos the way that we can do it with the M&Ms, you know what I mean? Sure. Yeah. What was the Nike thing? Nike ID. The Nike ID for Oreos is coming. The Nike ID, I mean, just imagine. You know, let's say your friend's favorite band is Crass, and you just get the 12-pack of Crass logo Oreos right on there. That would look stunning, wouldn't it? That is really good. That's really good. I got you. Hey, Chris Chang, it's your birthday. I got you some Crass Oreos. Right? What a treat. That's a good idea. I think that I do wonder how, because the M&M, when that first came out, I did it immediately. and put my face on M&M's immediately. Like the week at launch. First day out. Yeah, this is the coolest shit I've ever seen. I mean, at this point, it's probably like 15 years ago, 20 years ago, maybe. But that's still available, right? Like we can still go online and order M&M's with our face on them. Oh, 1,000%. Or whatever message you want, HLG. Of course, of course. CEO. Get the CEO hard pack of peanuts. Green only.

I wonder, yeah, I wonder if you can do, can you do peanut now? Because I feel like originally you could only do the OGs, but I want peanut. They're like, we tried to do peanut, but they're just simply too oblong. They're too bumpy, you know, sometimes. Because when you throw in the wild card of peanut shape, it's very tough to. to plan for that as far as printing goes. Yeah, I mean, it's an organic material that God created. Each one is different and special in their own way. Snowflake of the nut world. Organic material. Yeah, Shorty had that organic material. Going back to Chick-fil-A, I was a friend of the show Bad Bunny. He had his first show of his tour, I think, in his hometown. Is it PR or DR? Is it Puerto Rico or Dominican Republic? I think PR. I think. I've got my best guys on this. Let me see. He's known as the king of Latin trap, which I had not heard before, but yeah, he's Puerto Rico. I was correct. Sorry, I'm just texting you a photo. I had chat GPT make me a crass Oreo, and it looks pretty good. Oh, Crass Oreo looks banging. It looks nice, doesn't it? You know, there's some other round logo iconography. Yeah, for sure. Who got the roundest logo? We could work in a black flag bars, I think, if we wanted to. Guilt-free Duncan. Okay, well, anyway, Bad Money's doing his first show, the tour. He famously said, no dates in America because there's no reason to, which is... Pretty funny and pretty cool. Very cool. I like it because he's like, hey, I don't speak English and I don't want to. I don't give a fuck. I'm so big, I don't have to. He's like, I'll still steal your bitch in Calabasas and I don't even need to speak English. How cool is that? It's very cool. I mean, I guess it's also cool that enough Spanish-speaking people live in the world to where they're like, no, we're good. We don't need English. We don't need that. Thank God I'm bilingual. Anyway, but Bunny, he was up in there with LeBron and everyone was having a good time.

The thing that I really liked about his show, we were talking to Mark Hoppus of Blink-182 about the stage and the pyro and the fireworks and the explosions. Bad Bunny, he's got his stage set up to sort of look like a South American forest or a jungle. Nice. He's going rainforest cafe mode. He's going rainforest. Rainforest. But he had... live chickens roaming around on the stage as props, which is bittersweet because he's got a damn six-piece leg and thigh running around on stage. Don't call Kendall Jenner that, bro. That's rude. She's a successful businesswoman. I'm sorry. Continue. I'm glad that we are giving jobs, union work to these animals in need. But I feel like the sound issue is potentially abusive to these animals. And I'd love to see these little roosters with the shooting range earmuffs on to control. You know, like when you bring your baby to see the apple seed cast. All right, sweetheart, put on your airport headphones. We're going to the Jade Tree 25th anniversary concert. So Bad Bunny, I just want to understand. So Bad Bunny has the stage set up like he's in the rainforest, and he's got wild, real chickens running around to kind of make it feel very realistic. He's really putting the work in. It's a nice touch. It's a very nice touch. That's very cool. And Bad Bunny is one of my favorite artists that I will never listen to and don't care about at all, but I'm really happy how successful and cool he is. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions, but how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned.

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amuse-bouche to something that might hit a little harder. But then you see the streaming numbers and he's fucking, you know, he's destroying. It's crazy. I mean, he's a talent. I mean, he was in the studio with McGee and Dijon like a year ago. And I remember when the McGee album came out, I was like, oh, this shit sounds a lot like Justin Bieber. It would be cool if he just made music with Justin Bieber. Obviously, McGee's ass was listening. I'm just kidding. I can't take any credit for it, bud. I think it works out well. I think that his vocalizing over that kind of music is a nice amuse-bouche. It scratches the Frank Ocean itch that many people other than you seem to have. I think swag has more swag than Frank Ocean, if I'm keeping it 100. I don't think people will disagree with that. I'm never going to listen to it again, but I listened to it all the way through a couple times, and I was like, all right, this is cool. This is cooler than it needs to be. But I saw that... Scooter Braun, enemy of the state, said that this is the most authentic Justin Bieber record that has ever been made and released. Don't come crawling back, Scooter. I'm like, yeah, that's because he's smoking dust with some freaks in a studio in Burbank. That's because that's the real him. That's because if he's not drinking Pinot Noir with Lil B. Yeah. He's hanging out with McGee's friend who has like one of those headlamps and like a soldering iron and he's like up since four in the morning like soldering a bass pedal onto a plate reverb. Yeah, they go to do a fucking, you know, blunt rap run and Justin Bieber gets in McGee's friend's Subaru and he's never been in a car like that in his life. He's like, what the fuck is this? I don't understand. This car works? You people have to drive? Hold on. I have a Sprinter with a fucking butane lighter installed in it. Why don't you guys get on my level? I have no climate control from the backseat at all. Wow, okay. Okay, we'll figure it out. So I think it works out well. The other thing that I am enjoying about Swag is he's not really trying to appeal to any...

particular group, whereas that's where Drake seems to be failing right now. So you don't think that Justin Bieber is sort of like pandering to a pitchfork cool guy audience? You think he's just, it's more general interest? Well, I would say that if he's pandering in any direction, it's with black people. I think that he is showing his true soul and flavor. on this record and a reason why or something that reminded me of that or made me start thinking that is i was listening to the to the album carolyn's in the car she's like i don't know and i'm i'm kind of you know some songs are skipping some of them i'm like because your cd has a scratch or you're saying you're you're choosing to skip them because they're not doing it my bluetooth cassette was having playback issues once the battery starts I know. I know. Not dying all the way, but it starts, you know. Getting low. It starts getting low. But, you know, some songs, Carolyn would be like, you know, like when you do the car test or the girlfriend test or the wife test where you're playing a song. I'm sure you do it with Alex where you're like. I don't. I don't. You know, when you're testing out all of your tracks for the weekend gigs. Yeah. Anyway, but like you'll be in the car listening to music. And you'll be listening to a song and appreciating this pavement B-side for whatever twang or tone of the third guitar play, whatever it is. And then you'll put on some other random song and it could be any genre, but you'll just see somebody like Alex, who's more in tune with her physical body, comes from a dancing background. Sure, sure. And you just see, it's just more, you know, not to be sexist, but it's more of a female trait and quality to be able to appreciate. the true rhythm and beat I think that's true of music I think that's true I think that's true I'm appreciating a pedal steel solo I'm not kind of appreciating the full package the way I should yeah and as me as a DJ my whole career is like if you can get girls dancing then of course you know free your mind and the rest will follow everything is good to go at that point but I was I was listening to the Justin and I found myself doing kind of you know when the drummer at church

is like a little too good at drumming and they get in the pocket so it was like that gospel like oh really interesting like subtle and restrained fill patterns you know what i mean that only like a real good like black church drummer can do I found myself mimicking those drum wheel patterns, or obviously at least trying to, on my steering wheel. Of course. You don't have to tell me about air drumming, Chief. You don't have to tell me one thing about that. I'm the bird to your Jordan in terms of disrespecting the trim package on a steering wheel. Beat the brakes off that hoe. The amount of times that you've had to put your hand up. because you accidentally honked the car in front of you. I'm so sorry. I'm just listening to Alkaline. You get it. There I go again. You've heard Ackline Trio, right? You've heard this, right? The drums are amazing on this one. Yeah, I'm listening to Queens of the Stone Age, the record where Dave Grohl did it. Yeah, you got it. What part of the steering wheel is your crash? What part of the steering wheel is your crash? Actually, I take it off. What I do, and I don't think I'm the first person to do this, but I might be the best person to do this, is the steering wheel is guided by my knee. and I'm playing the full kit in the air. Oh, we're not tapping. No, I'm going from hi-hat to China to ride to crash to floor tom. But it's all in the air. There's no haptic touch whatsoever. No, there's no haptic touch. Exactly. There's no haptic touch. I think the haptic touch actually limits my skills because I'm not playing a huge kit. But I've got everything I need. I'm not Stuart Copeland. I don't have stuff behind me. I don't have any auxiliary percussionists in the car. It's usually just me. And if I can get in the pocket, it has to. It's not like a little jazz trio tiny kit. You've got a few more things to play with. Just a few more. Thank you to my sponsors. I'm a big, I'm a Zildjian guy since day one. So I've been able to kind of explore the package. And I have to do that in my own way. We leave the Rotos at home for this one.

Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, well, I prefer every car will have a good spot on the floor where the brake or gas is, where you can get a good kind of kick drum tone going. Oh, your kick drum. I thought you were going to be, because the real, what I've always wanted to do as an amateur drummer is be able to just keep the time on the hi-hat no matter what I'm doing. You know what I mean? where you're just that's your that's your skill challenge the hi-hat's just constantly clapping perfectly on beat until i need it you know what i mean and then i'm back in but yeah i understand i understand that the kick drum is hi-hat is kind of tweakery that means you're drinking a little too much cold brew if you're focusing on the hi-hat a guy like me a little more you know kind of hung behavior. I'm in the pocket. It's kick and snare only. Just let it breathe, baby. You know what I mean? I understand that. I'm not saying that I'm going to overplay. I'm just saying that I like that sort of tick when a drummer has that. It makes it feel like something is different. Especially if you have the tambourine sitting on top of the hi-hat for a little extra something. I also like, I mean, I feel like Travis Barker, not to bring it back, but his drum, his kick tone. is very similar to a lot of Carr's floorboards. I see. And he's a fun drummer to play along with. Yeah, very fun. Him and the No Doubt drummer is also another fun one to do. The drum fills on Sunday morning. Oh, yeah, that's it. Exquisite. Exquisite. Okay, how did we get there? We were talking about... Oh, so basically... Bieber. Yeah, the Bieber. It's the kind of music that a very talented church... gospel, soulful drummer with restraint is able to really... Those people, they're lions in a cage and they never really get the meal that they want. Bieber said, I got half an elk. There's still an eyeball on there when they're used to eating french fries and shit. Do you think anybody that played on this album Justin Bieber met in church though? Because there's a high probability that this drummer could actually be a church drummer.

He said Hillsong is closed. You guys need to work. Why don't you come down with me and the boys and we'll cut you in on some real music. And what this has really done has set him up to have the greatest tiny desk concert in the world. He's going to say, oh, Clips, you're doing the little on the desk. The school lunch table. Hold my unwell elixir. I'm about to bring in a lesbian named Shanice that is about to do drum fills that will have the inside of your ass just doing backflips. I'm waiting for the Bieber. I do appreciate, as we reach rollout fatigue, him just being like, I'm going to rip off the Prada font. put the word swag on black, take some pictures, some dramatic black and white pictures with Ronell for my album cover. And that's it. And you got it. We're done. I, and I really appreciate it because I think that if you have the audience, like it doesn't, you can do that. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. You don't need videos. You don't need to spend any money. He had billboards and shit. Obviously, they spent money as Justin Bieber, but I'm just saying there's no prelude. There's no pomp and circumstance. It's like, here's the music. You either like it or you don't, and I respect that. Yeah. When you are that big on his level, you're able to do it. Same thing with Chris Brown or any of these people who make that kind of music and have that kind of following. You just, you know, whoever his manager is, just text the swag album cover to Clear Channel and be like, can you put this up on Times Square today? And they're like, here's how much it costs. And they're like, okay. Yeah, please run the program. There's no deck presentation. There's no Q4 rollout strategy. It's just like, here it is. Put it up on the screen now. I wonder if Justin's one of those annoying musicians who cares about everything or if he's over the years been beat down and just doesn't give a shit about anything but making the music. You know what I mean? Because there's some people that care more about the other stuff, which is a little barking up the wrong tree most of the time. But he's been through it. I like to think that there's a fire inside of him and it needs to come out musically.

I'm happy this is what came out. I think it's cool. Whether I listen to it again or not, I think it's cool and interesting, and anybody at that level doing anything that is a risk is so rare. I also think he's got that kind of fan base, and this is obviously very desirable for anyone doing anything, but they want to understand it, so they will, if that makes sense. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That does make sense. That's me listening to extreme noise records or whatever it is. Yeah, I think I get it. Yeah, I love Lightning Bolt. I really get this. I feel it. Yeah, I think it's cool. I agree. And to your point of that, I also like that all these interesting people that we're friends with. or tangentially know people who manage them and producers and engineers on the record and musicians and everyone that came in to work on it are going to get or they're going to experience what it's like to get paid off of Justin Bieber's stream splits versus like oh yeah we had one that broke a million and you know like Spotify check is going to be almost eight grand this year. It's pretty good. Versus like, oh, let's just, here's what happens when you get paid on the Justin Bieber split. I can't even, I can't even imagine the difference. I mean, I feel like there's Justin Bieber and there's everybody else sort of at that level. There's maybe five people that are like, you know, true change your life without. i mean bieber you'll it'll change your life if you contributed a drum pattern to an album track yeah you know it's not even like you have to be like the co-writer yeah yeah you yeah you did one song on the on track 17 little drum part remix just bought your mama house right there bro we're good to go we're good to go yeah shout out to justin bieber i would love to see you winning and keep smoking whatever you're smoking it's working it's working um keep smoking that pure beauty I've noticed this is sort of the Instagram close friends season where all of our friends are popping into P-Town and upstate here and little conclaves.

they're sort of letting the squad know that they're open for business. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. I saw somebody, I think we're talking about the same person. They were letting them know they're open for business and something nice and mesh yesterday. And I appreciated that. I appreciate that. Because I feel like when you go to, you know, these, these fire Island places or P towns, or I mean, wherever in Tampa. I'm not just talking about gay places, but just people who are into... Seem like you are, but I get it. Tampa, throw that in there for good measure. Wherever there may be a bog, the Havasus of the world, the Tahos, the Tosnos, many parts of Arizona, where it's like, hey, this is my favorite bog or bridge or tunnel or tree. This is my favorite abandoned pickup truck where I do kind of the bulk of my exhibition sex. So if you're interested, you like what you see, drop a pin. I'll give you my coordinates and my hours. Close friends has changed this equation. Find me on the signal. Because it used to be you'd see a guy get to New York, post a picture of a cab or a famous building to kind of send out the bat signal. But now... With close friends available, you can just do whatever you want. Baltimore, I'm in you. Baltimore, see you tonight. Who's going to see Dan Deacon tonight? Meet me there. And now it's very similar to, it's funny, like the close friends Instagram, when you open up the phone and you've got the bright glowing green ring around it, it's really like a green light. that almost pulls your finger in to hit it. And it's also very similar when you're at the self-checkout line and register number seven just opens up, a little green light, head that way. Maybe I'm getting a little too deep on this one. You are, but I like it. I think green means go, baby. And you can't unlearn that. That's something that is ingrained in us in childhood or at least at 15, [redacted address]. Yeah, if somebody...

considers you to be a close friend it's your duty and just common decency to smash that watch button what i love about close friends is that it's a lot of people that i am not close friends with that are giving me access to their their secret life which is a fun game i think because usually it's just it's one degree different than what's being posted on the regular. You know, it's not... Okay, so you see the green ring come up and you're like, really, huh? Okay. You sure about this? Oh, we worked on that New Balance project 10 years ago. Sure. Yeah, shit. Okay, I'll check it out. Yeah, I wonder if people have multiple... Check it out. Oh, it's a picture of a latte. Okay, all right. Shit, there we go. I think you can. I've never... I think you can, like, have groups, too. Yeah, yeah. I think, you know, so you can, like... you piece it out however you want the thought of having it is i mean i guess i don't ever have to let the squad know that i'm open for business but great great marketing tool that close friends i'll tell you what i agree with that i agree with that um let's see here wait go you're about to say something have you watched any of of the lena dunham show yet i watched the first episode okay i haven't watched it yet alex finished it so i'm gonna have to i'm gonna watch it during our exo tour life this weekend i guess okay we're gonna set up we're gonna do screenings one just cancel the hotel rooms we don't need two just one we'll build a fort i'll bring my i'll go to trader joe's get a whole snack pack no we're ordering a pop lay down a towel we're ordering papa john's building a fort i'll bring jammies for both of us and we can just kind of watch watch what mama made okay some part i'm gonna cry and you have to pause it because i don't want to You have to promise me you'll pause it. No, I've been busy watching over the weekend. I was watching Spirited Away, which is an animated film from 25 years ago because I was hosting a panel discussion last night for a screening with Uniqlo and friend of the show, Karev Chan.

That's great. I mean, I hope they paid you well enough to make you watch a 25-year-old animated film because that's a $100,000 deal right there. That's $100,000. They did. Did you watch it on your Apple headset, your VR, or did you do regular? It was an immersive experience, of course. That's nice. I love an immersive experience. I watched it in the sauna. Who did you talk to? I talked to Justin Chang. Pulitzer Prize winning film critic for the New Yorker. It was just you two. There wasn't anybody else. Just us two. Oh, nice. So it was a guy who, you know, knows more about films than anyone in the world. And me, a guy who was like, you know what? If I'm going to host a panel discussion about this movie, I'd better watch it. That's it. Well, you're like, dude, this is, this movie is cool, but you like Bill and Ted, right? Like that shit is really. That shit's really my thing. Yeah, I asked Uniqlo. I was like, do we have to talk about only this movie? Or can we just talk about all the fun movies? Is there other movies we could talk about? Uniqlo Family? I think it's better to watch it right before so it's still fresh on the mind. And it's a beautiful film. It's the number one Japanese film of all time beating out Titanic and all that shit. It won Can. It won the Oscar. It's hand-drawn. It's a legendary film. Many people consider it to be a top. top 10 film of all time. I had to watch a movie recently, too. I had to go to an A24 screening room at 11 a.m. on a Friday, but I did get to watch it alone, so that was kind of a treat. I felt like I was in a rich friend's house in L.A. kind of vibe. Did you feel like you were about to give notes? No. Was it a film that was already completed? Yeah, it's done. I'm interviewing someone. that i'm interviewing the director and writer so i had to see it but i actually really liked it i really liked it can you talk about it is this a well yeah i mean it was benny it was benny safney it's for a magazine but he was it's it's the new it i can't remember what it's called it's it's the rock is is playing kind of this guy he's sort of like the one of the first mma fighters um and he's addicted to oxy and like it's it's it was really good i really liked it emily blunt plays his girlfriend it's called the smashing machine yeah it's really good i liked it a lot

But yeah, so I, but I did, they did a good job because it's in, they go to, it's like late 90s Japan is like a big part of the setting, which is very nice to look at. Wow. Okay. Very Studio Ghibli. Tying it back to my cinematic experiences this weekend. Yeah, let's tie it back to the high. Are we going to get Safdie on the pod? Are we going to get Dwayne on the pod? I would love DJ on the pod. I mean, I would love it. Benny was great. I mean, I already talked to him. It was great. He was cool and very well-spoken, but I think that it is time for us to build with DJ again, I think, after we met him. And now that he's sort of doing something for our fan base, I think it makes sense. Yeah. Brazilian jiu-jitsu people. Yeah, I agree. And the last time I was talking to The Rock, we were talking about In-N-Out in Glendale off of Harvey Street, one of his favorite In-N-Out locations. Get that protein. Get that four by zero. Imagine what DJ's cheat day at In-N-Out looks like. They probably got to pull up the Hummer. To fit the protein in there. Not the H2. I'm talking about the original. Yeah, the original. The Schwarzenegger one. Exactly. The real bad guy one. It has cans of water welded to the side. Those ones. Those are hopefully gas cans, but maybe water depending on how far you're going out. Oh, it's both. Okay. Well, make sure you don't confuse them and then drink gasoline, Jason. Just be careful. Be careful. It's for the donkeys. Of course. Let's see here. What else do I have? The only thing is on my notes, all I did was eat food this weekend. It was a little too much. I was eating so good, but... Flynn launched a new veggie sandwich at Jim, so I had to go yesterday, and that shit was smacking. And I have to say, there was a pickled carrot edition, and I'm usually not a big pickles guy, but it really set it off. Okay, Jim veggie sandwich. It's like eggplant. eggplant. I can't remember what was on it. It was very good. It's weird because I had a veggie sandwich this weekend from Bubba and Grandma's. It's called the Rainbow. Yeah, it was really good. It was just the dark wheat bread. There's some curried tofu and the beets and tomatoes and sprouts and carrots and all and shit. When the veggie sandwich, they make it, they cut it, wrap it in the...

brown organic looking paper and then you know you open it and eat it a half an hour later and the bread has been stained from the beet beetroot juice that's when you know so you know it's gonna hit no absolutely absolutely that sounds that sounds good too i've never been to bub and grandma's because it's kind of it's like where is it is it highland park it's right next door to dunsmore so it's an area of la that you will likely not explore i'm not going there but the next time you come to la and you're here for a little while i'm going to take you all the east side spots we're gonna do like a bang bang day i would like because i know that i feel like i know that you're not gonna you're not gonna want to like go to five different places over the course of your life we'll just do it all in one afternoon and uh and you'll be like that was great it was amazing i get it never gonna come back but i get it just like when you go to a great pizza spot In Ridgewood, you're like, yeah, that's awesome. I don't ever need to come back again. Why would I do that when I have a sweet green right down the street? Went to Austria Moza last night. Shout out to their chef, Kirby. Kirby Shaw, listener of the pod. Sent out some beautiful things. We had the prosciutto and melon. I haven't heard a motherfucker name. I haven't heard a motherfucker name. since middle school. I like that. That's a nice name. He looks like a baseball pitcher. He kind of looks like you, actually. All right, chill out. Yeah, we had some sort of... I can't remember what the fish was, but it was like a raw fish with melon juice, and it was fucking banging. It was like a pescatarian version of the prosciutto and melon, is what I'm trying to say. That melon juice. Melon juice. Squeezing. So it was like, okay, like a little ceviche-ish kind of thing, but with some honeydew, olive oil. It was good. It was so good. Melon's in season right now. Moza is so good, man. That's a great restaurant. We had quite a meal. All the pastas, the salads. I love going there because it also feels like a serious, it kind of feels serious.

You know what I'm saying? It feels like a serious restaurant, and everything now is trying to be quirky and fun, and there's nothing quirky and fun about it. It's just really good. People who take their job very seriously and want to do a good job. Just like us with this podcast. It's a very similar through line. All right, we are hitting the road. I mean, it's just weak, Jason. I'm going to see you on Thursday in beautiful Minneapolis, our show Friday. If you're not in St. Paul, if you can't get tickets to Turf Club, Please stream it on Veeps. I think it's like $15. We're going to have some surprises for you. It should be fun. Chicago, Saturday night. We'll see you there at Lincoln Hall. Then we've got a few days off before we hit Toronto and D.C., but we'll be there soon. And London, get your tickets. I know you've been watching Oasis. We're all very excited to be there. August 4th at the 100 Club in Soho. And July 20th, day after our Chicago show. them jeans throwing out the first pitch at the cubs red socks game tune in live stream it nowhere do they show that on tv uh good question they might i think if you care enough to watch me you'll find out if you're paying if you're paying for mlb red zone you may be able to maybe i'll check it out um yeah somebody was telling me that they people can actually bet on the first pitch Not the first pitch of the actual game, but whoever the celebrity guest first pitcher that you can bet if it's going to be a ball or a strike. I guess that's a nice binary bet. That's the kind of bet I would take. You know what, man? I want to bet against you because it's funny, but I would bet for you. I would bet for a strike because that's what I believe in my heart. The other thing, that power for me, I could be a fall guy. Oh, we could make some money. Somebody in Vegas can make... Make a couple calls. I'll throw a ball if I have to. I'll bounce that shit up there. I don't care. For a couple hundred bucks? All right. Howlonggone.com. Get your tickets. We'll see you this week. And thank you for listening. Bye-bye.

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