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What's up, family? How does it feel to be 40 years old? Bad. Does it actually feel bad? No, no, no, no. It doesn't feel bad. It feels... I don't know. I really don't care about birthdays. And I think a lot of fellas don't really care about birthdays that much. Speak for yourself. I'm a birthday queen. Are you really? No, I don't really care either. I mean, I like to have a party because it's a nice reason to get people together. in the scheme of things i don't actually care yeah i mean i like having you know the bros your friends your your loved ones all together have a nice big meal and everyone has a feast and a laugh and some food and and some good wine etc but you can't do that now thanks to the novel coronavirus this virus doesn't stop bro i've been reading that lately and it seems like the virus is still going it seems like the virus is still going i mean and that's fucked up that is fucked up especially considering it's multiple i have multiple close friends this year having 40th birthdays that novel corona is interrupting i mean i don't know it is weird like it it i mean how how do you think you're going to feel for your 40th do you think you'll be okay with it do you think it'll be you know bitch i'll be i'll be i'll probably like hike to the the peak of a mountain alone you know i'm saying or maybe i'll take the jet to dubai i i don't know i mean i i don't think i i don't hopefully in two years the novel coronavirus will be behind us um but i think i'll feel i don't know i don't think i'll really care either i'm kind of with you i mean i i think that you know One of society's many ills is that men are considered to age well and women are not. So it's almost in our favor to get older. We look hotter and cooler. Yeah, that is true. But there's certain life milestones that you're like, did I hit it? Whenever you hit...

21 or 30 or 40 or 50 or whatever whatever those like bigger age milestones are you know it does make you look at your life in you know in a certain way positive and negative i'm happy with my life and i'm i'm not upset about anything but you know well that's interesting i was gonna give you some notes but i guess if you're happy with it i'll leave it alone Look, we could all give each other notes for our lives where they could have gone better or worse, but I think mentally where I'm at, my understanding of how the world works and how people are and what makes me happy, I'm glad and I feel honored and lucky and grateful that I'm in a place where I feel good about that. because a lot of people don't you know you know there's a there's a lot of bigger milestones of like you know by the time i turn this age i want to have this much money i want to have this many kids and i want to live here and blah blah blah and you know those are those are cool but they're the ones that you're you're sort of always going to be chasing true i mean you've accomplished a lot you live in the suburbs you have a dog you haven't quit smoking it's all pretty sick from what i from what i can tell you're killing it i'm in the best shape of my life that's true um i have not you know like i've kept out of jail i like how low this bar i like how low the bar is no i mean things sound low but you know like i was talking about this on the on the on the throwing fits podcast about like you know the my metric level for success is like truly being able to do whatever you want with your life and with your day and and still be you know comfortable enough to to live and and you know more or less do whatever you want i'm i don't sit around being like fuck i wish i had blah blah blah i wish i could do this like i think we relate on that that's the true measure of success to me is is is absolute utter dictatorship level control of one's own destiny yeah i mean because so many people even people who appear to be quite successful in in life and their world

you know are living in some sort of prison you might be dating some badass chick but and you might have a sick ass mclaren or something but your life on a day-to-day basis sucks ass and you have to do so much shit that you don't want to do blah blah blah then you're like is it is it actually worth it are you actually are you having a a good life sure who knows and we we hop out of bed every day and and the book turns the page and it's just fresh and new and it's it's our river to run yeah the the the the red leather and the mozzie it's nice but it gets old quick you know it's not sustainable no of course no of course and i i'm look i'm proud of you for making it this far and and i know that tall people do die sooner so we have to remember that milestone as well yeah i mean based on how how tall i am like i hit my midlife crisis at 21 that explains a lot of those looks like that explains the supreme quilted fitted hat with the dim mac chain that that now i'm understanding i wanted to do i don't have access to all this stuff i'd love to see some cb fits from that same era bitch it was not it was not sweet on your side either okay it wasn't sweet on my side but i didn't think i was in dip set either so I mean, at the time, being in Dipset was a good and cool thing. And looking like you're in Dipset, even though you're a white guy from Orange County, at the time was fun. I don't know if it was cool, but it was at the very least a fun way to live. No, I think it's a fun way to live. I don't think it's a fun way to look. I call it my Harlem summer. Wow. Yo fam, let me get another nutcracker. You know what I'm saying? Um, I, I don't think, first of all, were you kicked out of ASAP or are you still good? Uh, ASAP TJ. I'm still, I haven't received my marching orders yet. I am. I'm still, I'm still getting the direct deposit. So you're all AWGE, our director, direct deposit. Yeah. I'm a content creator at AUG agency.

I mean, you know, say they can say whatever they want on Twitter and on and on TikTok. But like the checks are still clearing. So who's the joke? You know, I will say you're the first 40 year old white man to somehow both be OVO TJ and ASAP TJ. So congratulations for that. That's truly crossing border. That's bridging worlds that it's honestly previously unseen. Well, you know, I'm glad that I'm finally getting the recognition for it because a lot of people don't see what A$AP Jeansy is doing and what big OVOTJ is up to. The work that I put in behind the scenes. Yeah, you're saying these haters have their shades on and they're not giving you the shine you deserve and it's time that you get your fucking just due, not just the direct deposit, but a little credit. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to have to wait until my 3030 comes out next year for the world to know all the contributions I've given to this little planet we call Earth. Yeah, I think a sentiment that I've heard passed around lately is, you know, give the people in your life their flowers while they're still alive. You know what I'm saying? He said that. You know what I mean? So in this case, all the ghostwriting, all the content creation, you need to be recognized for that. I, I, I didn't want to, I'm the one who told Andre 3000 to play a flute in a parking lot and nobody is giving me my credit for that. I didn't want to say anything, but the fact that you, you know, the fact that you actually did write little Dirk's verse, um, for, for laugh now, cry later, certified lover boy in store soon is, is like, I know you're publishing companies happy about it, but I think the streets need to know as well. yeah it's big big dirk will get his day in the sun exactly yeah let's hope i mean one day you know i i thought i thought drake did that for him but he really did it for ovotj well speaking of that the uh the video for pop star just came out this week yeah starring you know who loves it me me

Me! I love JB! I love Justin Bieber! Yeah, when I first read the headline, I was like, oh shit, Bieber put out a song called Pop Star as well? Damn, this is gonna be... See, Jason, that's how I know you ain't really OVO or you ain't thinking big, bro. You gotta think bigger. Of course that's what... You know Drake knew what to do. Drake said, let me call JB and get the teens on this so I can get those numbers up, up, up, up. I mean, it is a pretty good video, isn't it? I feel like it's a great COVID video because it took nothing. You know what I mean? It's like they rented a house. Yeah, but also that's like every rap video that's made now is you get a Sherman Oaks McMansion and then you rent two McLarens and then... You fill it with people who are willing to die to be near Justin Bieber. You find some Craigslist thoughts that'll do a $75 ass dance. Well, I mean... I mean, I love the Scooter Braun cameo really sent me. I hate Scooter Braun so much, though. That's the best line in the song, though. That's the best line. The David Foster song, the David Foster line, and then my manager in 20 Hoes of Budokan is really it. Yeah, but I mean, how many Drake fans know who David Foster is? They know that David Foster, it doesn't matter. That's why it's even better. It's even more clever. How many Drake fans can afford to eat at Budokan? Just me and you. Just me and you. You're lucky you weren't in New York for your birthday, or I would have had to take you to Budokan. Thank God. But I really do think Scooter Braun is the worst. He does suck ass, and I did not like him. Why? Because he's a fucking genius millionaire, and you're not? Sounds like somebody's hating for their 40th. So are you coming out and saying that you are a Scooter stan? We're Braun Hive on the side. I mean, just from strictly a music business standpoint, that motherfucker knows how to get paper. What can you say? So do a lot of terrible people. Jeff Bezos knows how to get paper. That doesn't mean he's not shitty. I'm not talking about their... I don't think Scooter Braun and Jeff Bezos are on the same level financially or shitty-wise. I'm saying I would rather hang out with Bezos than Scooter any day.

nah bro scooter scooter is the fucking lil dicky of managers bitch he manages justin bieber and ariana grande fam i know yeah and and dave is probably gonna get picked up for a second season well okay fair um i i was saying less less in levels of success and more in levels of like corniness well of course he's corny but like the music business is inherently full of guys like him who are corny. I mean, I know, but don't you long for the, the, the days of the CB era where managers were cool. They weren't cool. I was the only cool one. I never met a cool manager. Bullshit. I mean, I'm, you know, you watch like old, like 60s, 70s documentary. Oh, well yeah. Doing like sick ass shit. He's like, all right, I need to like kill this prostitute. I need to fly, like smuggle a bag of heroin at my ass from, from Malaysia. Like managers were doing sick ass shit. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian stateside with Kai and Carter. This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down. the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world and i know you particularly have quite a lot of questions a lot of questions but how often because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot how many times do they do three times a week and i i have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do that's just a guess the guardian is not some billionaire owned They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? You know, especially when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, so do our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world...

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That is Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince punto com slash how long. I will say I was doing as much or more coke than the band, which made me feel cool. And I think that is a 60s or 70s kind of era thing. Right. But if you were still a manager right now, what type of shit would you be doing? Like, all right, I need to go. Can somebody go to Walgreens and buy a ring light? Like that's what managers are doing now. That's true. I mean, Scooter Braun. So, so just for a little context, you know, I actually kind of had some Scooter Braun interactions in the early days because he was a party promoter at Emory university in Atlanta. That's how he got his start. So he would book, he would book like big boy and two chains and like all those guys for like school events. And then he got into like corporate events and then he got into managing. Okay. I think he had money to start with, but like, whatever, of course he did. um but but uh i i don't look man managing justin bieber is probably one of the worst jobs on earth and like music business wise like i i can't even imagine how difficult that is um and i have to give scooter the respect because i guarantee you that justin bieber ain't like justin bieber ain't dealing with an assistant justin bieber's calling scooter brawn direct on the bat phone when he's like When he's ODing on meth. And then also when he wants to talk about God for three hours, he's calling Scooter Braun. So Scooter Braun deserves the shout out. Do you think he calls Scooter when he's shopping and they don't have his size? Honestly, yes. Maybe now. But I want it. They said they don't have it in medium. But like, what do I do? That's probably. Well, now he has his wife. So maybe he calls her, you know, and she has to calm him down. But I guarantee you. um scooter brawn and hailey bieber in cahoots to keep him on the money making train because that makes both of their lives better um but that video is good the video is good i like it i like the song too the song slaps actually the song so far is the only good song on the album that i've heard well it's not even on the album would you would you think that and that's how i hate dj khaled but he can he always has the biggest drake songs in the last five years i was told you know i was told um that

basically Khaled believed in Drake day one and helped him get the deal with Lil Wayne so Drake will always give him songs forever indebted to him which I think is actually cool that's the type of business and respect and honor amongst men and women honor amongst creators that is rare to see nowadays in the dog eat dog world of 2020 creative arts I couldn't agree you know I actually um i was reading maybe i'm a caled stand now shit just based on his moral and morals and ethics sorry i mean i was i was reading the new york times before we before we uh did this podcast and they do this you know on sundays they do like a week with person with with someone and they did a they did a week with the guy who founded 88 rising and okay this this dude i i've never been more impressed with one of those in my life this motherfucker is working 24 hours a day because it's so global He's got so much shit going on. He must be filthy fucking rich. I've actually worked on a couple of things with him, and I was really blown away by how organized and professional they are. Really working with true Swiss precision. It's honestly incredibly impressive, and he's got this thing. But it's so international that it feels really modern and how that business needs to be to actually make money. You know what I mean? You have to have every territory covered. But just like me, he goes to go get him on Larchmont for his bevs. You know what I mean? So hopefully one day I can break in the Philippines and get a serious XM show. Shoutouts to Go Get Him, Tiger. Shoutouts to 88 Rising and my entire... What part of Asia are they focusing on mostly? No, that's what I'm saying to you. It's all of it. All of it. That was so crazy. Yeah, it's like literally touching every country. It's a motherfucking global movement. But I also think what's happening is he's linking up with guys like him from the Philippines. And he's like, give me a percentage. I'll put you on game to how to launch your entire country's genre into America. Right. It is a good move. It's very cool. Capitalizing on the Asian, Korean, Chinese, Japanese, et cetera, music world. And as it quickly takes over America and being first to market for that is smart.

No, it was really interesting. The only other person who's able to do it is David Cho. Shout out to David Cho. Oh, I thought you were going to say Diplo. He's tackled every country's music except for Asian stuff. What's up with Diplo's new ambient record? Have you listened to it? Apex Twinhead, TJ. I poked around on it. There's like a YouTube video clip where it's like a super cut of all the songs together. I mean, I liked it more than any other Diplo music I've listened to in the last however many years. I mean, the reviews are good. I mean, I would actually sit down and listen to that, which is... I mean, I like Diplo. He's a friend. But a lot of the music he makes now is kind of global world pop music that you'd see on the VMAs or something. So it's not exactly my cup of tea, but... I think the ambient vibe is good. I think it's cool that he's doing it and it's cool that he's like, I have enough money and success and I've traveled and I've toured and he's a few years older than me and he's probably ready to settle down and start chilling out and doing some good stuff with his money and his fame and notoriety. He's going to have more kids out of wedlock and really spread that money around. It's called the Diplo Stimulus. um if you're a hot mixed chick you can get the diplo stimulus um but i i think the main the main takeaway that i like about it is like he he was doing it just for the artistic merit because he knows damn well that you know there's no real money money in that yeah yeah so that part is cool i agree i mean the only release i'm listening to new release i'm listening to is the rolling stones goat's head to reissue which we does not count as a new release It does count as a new release. It came up in new releases. That is from 1967. Bitch, it says 2020 next to it in my iTunes. So go to hell. Look, when they re-released No Ceilings on Apple Music, that shit still says 2009, bitch. How is the No Ceilings reissue? It's just No Ceilings, so it's fire. Oh, they didn't remaster No Ceilings? No, no, no. Basically, all they did was like...

Since it's all mixtape cuts, it's all just him rapping over other beats. So they just cleared it off. Yeah, it was just like Dat Piff only for the last 10, I mean, 2009. Shit, that's 11 years ago. Isn't that cool? I mean, that's like a classic though, right? You're the Wayne Head. That's like his peak, correct? Yeah, well, it's not his peak peak. A lot of people would say that other genres, I mean, sorry, other time frames, other mixtapes were his peak peak. you know like carter carter 2 etc but i love no ceilings because that's when he was like he's he still had his ability to wrap his ass off but he was really starting to lose his mind on drugs but still able to hold it all together yeah yeah yeah like he didn't go off the deep end yet but he was he was experimenting and dipping his toe into the the dark arts of like you know smoking eight pounds of weed a day until he's just like He's gone to Mars. When did he do the Rob Dyrdek rock album? I think it was right after it, right? It must have been right after, yeah. But what is your favorite cut on No Ceilings, Jason? What beat do you think Wayne rides the best on that certified Dap Piff classic? Let me look that up right now live. I mean... I want you to give me a few bars, too, if you could. I'm not going to do that. I mean, he did a great job on Poker Face. Oh, yeah. But the song was about poking a girl in the face with his penis, I think. Dude, fuck, I totally forgot about that. What a classic. He went over Throw It In The Bag by The Dream. He went over Swag Surfing, Wasted, Ice Cream Paint Job. Ice Cream Paint Job? I'm getting chills. He did all of it. 2009, that was a good year for Rep. It really was. Damn, damn, damn. I need to re-listen because I remember the Gaga song for sure. Yeah, wasn't that a weird time?

2009, I was deep in NME culture, so I was not banging no ceilings in the Mercedes. Yeah, I mean, throw it in the bag, Fabulous. Ooh, too good. Fabulous is truly the... He's like... We've talked about this before, but he... I don't know why people like him so much. He has literally no songs. Who? Fabulous. No, because he's always been a little nice with it. shut up jason he's not what do you mean a little nice with it because people also think he dresses well so you're saying he raps well or you got like his like his harlem fits he's a good he he dresses terribly he dresses like an eminem offensively bad offensively bad i agree he dresses he look yeah he looks like a nascar from from 1997 but he i mean like i don't like him i don't like listen to his music but from like a skill perspective, he is a good rapper. He has the ability to use his voice with words in a way that is impressive enough for him to make $300,000. That argument is you capping for Eminem is what it sounds like to me. I'm a little confused by that argument. Are you coming out now at 40 as an Eminem fan? This podcast is your coming out party? The world has evolved past Eminem. The thing is Fabulous stayed in his lane. he didn't he didn't get weird he he just stuck to this the script is just like i'm just gonna rap about like looking fly getting my dick sucked and and i'm not gonna talk about weird shit like like murdering people with a knife and i'm not gonna talk you know like do a song about like the suicide prevention hotline You know, all the bullshit that Eminem is talking about. He's just talking about like, yeah, I went to the mall. I bought a bunch of clothes. I got my dick sucked. I ate Ruth Chris. I went to bed. I smoked weed. I watched SportsCenter. And you're like, this is all chill as fuck. I like it. Dave, so you're saying F-A-B-O-L-O-U-S is actually just keeping it 100 and therefore that gets him. He's certified forever. It's kind of like.

You know, it's like a rom-com genre. You always know it's going to be fine. There'll be some ups and downs, but it's a warm hug. He creates a world that nothing really bad or amazing happens. It's just like, I can dip in, and it's not a big commitment. Do we think that Fabulous is paid? No, he is not paid. But I think he's paid enough to be fine. And that's also why I like Fabulous. He had a couple hits when people really made music business money, though. Like, what was his biggest song? Hollaback. Oh, yeah. How much F-A-B-O-L-O-U-S did you play in the club? A lot. When it first came out, that's right when I started DJing. Or not right when I started DJing, but, like, yeah, that was 2001. Shit. That motherfucker's been in the game for a solid 20 or more. yeah and that was that was produced by the neptunes that had the song or had the little part where it did the phone number where oh yeah do you remember did you see that video yesterday on online where the guy the guy was like this is how you know it's a pharrell beat and it was like him listening to like every pharrell song and every like a lot of our intro yeah i started the four bar intro i didn't know that did you know that come on bro i'm an ableton junkie i know all about the the pharrell four bar intro where it goes Jason, don't do it to him. Damn, Jason's about to fucking beatbox on this podcast. I apologize to all our listeners. Jason just did a quick beatbox for you guys. Sorry, guys. For our listeners, that's usually Patreon content that's behind the paywall where I just beatboxed for 45. Jason beatboxing is the how long gone feet pics. That's our... Oh, another one.

I mean, I just didn't know that. I guess I hadn't studied Pharrell's catalog. But, you know, David Cho, friend of the pod, and he sent us that video of Pharrell and Justin Timberlake in the studio, which is really good. I think it's from a documentary I've never seen before. But I just love watching two geniuses of our time, like, hum in a dark room wearing beanies. And then 20 minutes. Just vibing off of each other's energy. literally just vibing off a quick hum and then 25 minutes later making like a giant hit that is like lasted the test of time right it's true it's truly insane to watch people go in and hear a beat and just kind of hum and scat and like whisper to themselves and then go sit down and write something then come back and then that's it's we're good all right we got it yeah like so crazy people come together and like hey do you want to meet the studio like four o'clock and then it's like 5 p.m they're like oh that's good and the other guy's like and then it's like 6 p.m like i'm doing the backup like last minute ad libs and then 7 p.m they're like all right so how are we going to split this 85 million dollars up like 35 million for you and i get like how does that work or is it 50 50. Let's break the engineer off because he's been here all night. You know what I'm saying? He's been here all night. But is that video as good as Jay-Z and Timbaland in the studio? No. Timbaland has the gallon of fruit punch. The jugging? The fat Timbaland? Dude, that shit gives me goosebumps too, though. That shit is hard as a motherfucker. I get psyched when I see that. Yeah, because Timbaland has the ultimate producer face. And in that video, he looks like South Park where Cartman gets addicted to video gaming. That's every rapper, they're like, I'm in album mode. And you're like, oh, shit. He's really on his grizzy, dog. He's grinding. And then when Timberland's on the album mode, it's like, I hooked up an IV with Mountain Dew. And I'm just eating cheese danishes. And they wheel me on my chair from the keyboard to the fucking bass guitar. So I laid on a fat slappy. Bitch, Timberland's fit now, just to be fair.

He's swole, but he's still fat, though. Yeah, he's fat, swole. But he got really... He's one of those guys who went... He got sober. He was addicted to oxys, actually. Was he? I don't know if he's sober, but he was addicted to oxys. He's talked about it. Yeah, he went to... I think he went to treatment. But I think that's what happens. You get out, and then those guys kind of like... They still lift weights all the time, but they kind of start eating whatever they want. So then they're that weird in-between. Textbook Timbo. Thank God you didn't get... super obese on the oxys right i know bro i mean that's that's dark man i mean drugs are cool as hell xanny's xanny's could have got me fat if i stuck with it really oh yeah i don't know you're just you're zonked out in outwater snacking yeah like the the part of your brain where you're like i should probably go like blast blast some cardio or or hit some kettles or whatever That part of your brain where you're like, yeah, I should do that. That'll be good for me and my body, and I'll be happy and glad I did that. That part of your brain is removed off the bars, and you're just like, I should probably get a sandwich and then see what Netflix has popping right now. And then that's it. And then that's it. And then you wake up, and it's like three days later. That's true, actually. That's true. But textbook Timbo, those are the only two. I can't think of another. that that textbook timbo shit is iconic that scene is is a legendary everybody knows that one oh yeah but that that also to tie that up the that four bar pharrell that's that really is a testament to how amazing of a producer he is to where all he has to do to get you like beyond amped for this song that's about to start is to just take a part of it and loop it four times and it takes two and a half seconds and you're like oh shit here we go dog whereas like nowadays it's just like this crazy build up and like drum roll and like big drama and effects and all you needed back then was a and then it's on it's on bro can you tell me what song you're referencing with that bum bum bum bum bum bum literally all of them that's i know but i feel like i know but i feel like there's a particular one that you're referencing i think i was gonna go i just want to love you timbalake oh okay okay

JT, fan of the pod from what we hear. Isn't that right, Jason? Of course. He's like one of our many celebrity listeners. I'm going to look this up. I just want to love you. Give it to me by Jay-Z. Can I play this right now? I've never done this where I just play. Hold on a second. It's going to sound like shit. Okay, never mind. It's not going to work. Did you not pay your Spotify bill? No, I was playing it off of YouTube directly out of my laptop into the recorder. It was a bad thing. It's not going to work. Not surprised. So I got some questions on Twitter. For what? For this podcast that we do. Oh, do we still have to do that? I thought we were too big to solicit questions from the loading fans. We don't have to. I was just feeling like maybe somebody will have a good question. That's rare, but go ahead. I will see. Okay, what is Chris Black's favorite Daniel Arsham piece? There's a lot to choose from here. It's got to be Pokemon for me. I don't have to fight you for Pokemon. I can't tell you. I think maybe my favorite is probably like a little Ronnie Feig sculpture he made. Did he do that? Yeah, because they have this weird mini art gallery in Kith that is just tiny figurines. And I think the first one was Daniel Arsham, Ronnie Fide collab. I could be wrong. Trump voice, sad. That's just sad. I mean, Arsham is absolutely cancer to the game. He's absolutely the worst shit out there. He's not as bad as Monopoly Man Alec, though. Truly the worst artist in the history of art. But Alec Monopoly doesn't try to like – Alec Monopoly is not involved in my life. Like Daniel Arsham I read about or see like every day somehow because it's like streetwear affiliated. You know what I mean? Whereas Alec Monopoly – Daniel Arsham is not a part of my life. So that means it's something that you could fix yourself if it's something that you really wanted to fix, Chris. I think you like seeing Danny on the TL. I mean –

Bro, when I went to, I was in London, and he had a full, he had an Arsham Porsche in the window of Selfridges, like, facing Oxford Street. And I was like, bro, this motherfucker made it. That's crazy. I mean, really sullying the good name of Selfridges with that trash, man. My absolutely favorite bloody store in the entire world, Selfridges. Hopefully you wrote them a letter detesting. I condemn this Daniel Arsham Porsche. I DM'd all the buyers that follow me and told them that they weren't going to see any more money from me unless they get rid of it. Chris is going to pull the collection if you don't act quick. I'm going to fucking pull the collection and you know what that will do to your little business. Somebody asked, do you use lists to organize your Twitter feed and what categories do you break them up into? The answer is hell no. That's some dorky shit. That's dorky as hell, bro. Using lists on Twitter. That being said, if you add them genes to your list of cool DJs, then I do fuck with you and I support you. I don't. Lists are narc behavior. Absolutely the worst. Fellas, don't be listing. Also, when I get a notification that I get added to a list, I look at it and it's always a fucking dork. Always. Always. You know what, Jason? I want to get into something here. We're all too worried about fucking optimizing. We need to calm the fuck down. If you can't just scroll Twitter and enjoy it, you're doing it wrong. You don't need to optimize it and organize it. That's not what we need to do. Just fucking relax, you dorks. Right, right, right. You don't have to like, okay, I'm going to look at Twitter. I have to set up my drink in my perfect place here, and then I have my chair, and I turn the light on, and then... Yeah, just if you need a list to look at Twitter, you know, this is my Twitter list. Followers. That's it. Exactly, yeah. Like, I don't need, I don't do any. Yeah, if you're not good enough for me to be on the list of Twitter, then I won't follow you. That's it. Yeah, exactly. Look, I don't make lists for shit, bro. Like, as you know, historically, I come straight off the dome. Jason's seen it. Jason's seen it. Much like Jay-Z and Timberland, I'm Jay-Z, you're Timberland.

You know what I mean? I'm Liam Gallagher. You're bonehead. That's just what it is. But I do think that I guess the only thing I really use is Google Calendar. That is very important, and that's the only organizational tool I truly use in my life. Yeah, me too. I use iCal, but same diff. but like i have to use that and i didn't start using that until a couple years ago like until it was like all right i'm busy enough now where i need my i need to use a proper calendar to like i think with that stuff you have to be you you have to do it a hundred percent you can't just be like i i to the calendar sometimes because you have to do it so much that if it's not on there it's not happening no i'm a big i'm a big google i'm a big g suite head you know what i'm saying i practically use google every day bruv I use Google every day. I wake up, I use Google. Obviously, I use Google Docs for all of my writing. I use Google Cal. I use Gmail for my email. I mean, it's the greatest brand in the world. Damn, I got to check this out. The only thing I don't use is Google Sheets. No, that's whack. I ain't ever using Sheets. Batman, no spreadsheet. No spreadsheet. There are people that are so good at that shit. that I don't even need to try. There's always somebody else. There's people who are so good at fucking Rubik's Cubes and shit too, but have fun with that. What I'm saying, Jason, is that... That being said, watch the Rubik's Cube documentary on Netflix. Did they use the Chrome Hearts one or no? That was my only criticism for that entire documentary. That was the only Cube they didn't have. No Chrome. Okay. All right. What else we got from the fans? Speaking of Chrome, my LP just did a Chromey pull. It's arriving on Monday or Tuesday. Oh, I think I need to come over for a little photo shoot. Chris, it's available by appointment only, and not everyone will make the cut, but there's going to be like 50 pieces of Chromey at the crib in Glendale. Jason, first of all, now they're going to have to send a security guard because you just blasted that.

and and but i honestly if i don't look if i don't come the chromie will have came and gone by the time this this podcast comes out well so you're saying i need to come try it on now is that what you're saying like we'll stop podcasting right now that's right that's right because if i don't get a picture with 50 pieces of chrome hearts on my body Like, cause you know, when I did that story about her schleifers, the incredible store on Long Island. And I, I, I did pose with, with the founder Lori with a lot of Chrome hearts on, but it didn't feel like enough. Didn't feel enough. I want it to look like when they do, like on Sex and the City, when they go to a party and they're eating sushi off of the naked chick. Exactly. I want you to be the naked chick, and I want sushi to be different pieces of Chrome Hearts jewelry. All the chrome. I want the chains. I want the rings. I want the anklet. I want the fucking salt and pepper shakers. I want the ketchup and mustard. I want all of it. Would you... Would you get your nipples pierced if they pierced it with Chrome Hearts jewelry? I would do that. I would do that tomorrow for content, to be honest. Would you get your penis pierced if it was Chrome Hearts? Okay, that's where we draw the line. Have I told the penis piercing story on this podcast before? I don't think. No, no, I don't have one. I've never had one. So I used to, when I was, you know. Fellas, you pierced your meat. Nah, fellas, nah. I've never done that. But when I was in. When I was getting piercings when I was in high school because I wasn't able to get tattoos yet, it was a different time. You had to have your parents hate you somehow. Exactly. We used to go to this place called Urban Tribe in the little Five Points neighborhood of Atlanta. And at the time, it was considered a super high-end piercing place. They made their own jewelry. It was kind of a thing. It was known for what they did. Anyway. so we were friendly with them obviously because i was i was in there with my friends blah blah and there's always this guy who looks really straight and normal like a teacher kind of guy um so you gotta worry about exactly but he would stand up and we would hear like a little jingle um i was like where the fuck is this guy where like is this this guy got like why does this man sound like a fancy feast commercial every time you exactly dead ass dead ass so then

I finally asked, and the owner of Urban Tribe was like, oh, that guy's got his balls pierced like 40 or 50 times. And literally, they hit each other when he walks. 40 or 50 times? Like rings. Just hella rings. I've seen it before. I've seen pictures of people who have dozens and dozens of ball piercings. At what point are you just like, I think this is enough. 53. apparently that was his thing because he like couldn't have anything showing because of because of his career so he had to do that damn let him get his little freak off jason no i respect it i love it i just want to know like what is the end game with that like what are you do you let that rock until the casket drops or at some point do you have to take all of them out and then what does what does your ball meet look like honey even at that point not even manscapes 3.0 technology is going to save you that's a great point thank you manscape damn bro well hopefully he's he's still alive and kicking next question uh 10 tenant just dropped movie going in the time of covid is that how you do or do you pronounce it 10a or tenant i don't know no one no one's seeing that shit nobody's going to the fucking movies going to the movies is not gonna ever happen again sorry guys unless that's not true unless tarantino like pays people to go to the theaters i don't i don't think it's going to happen for at least it's already happening it's already happening i mean their theaters open where people are seeing it in europe i mean it's doing 100 million dollars internationally already but i do think it is doing some i think there are some theaters in america just obviously not in new york or la the only two cities that matter um i think they have to like find a way to make the business sustainable though if they can only have like 25 occupancy does that mean they have to increase the tickets 4x yeah dude they just gotta charge 50 if you watch that shit at home i mean i i don't care about that why would you do that though at that point it's just like if i'm gonna spend a move you know but like you know if the movie ticket before was 18.95 and now it's like 90 or whatever that is is gonna cost like damn jason it must suck to be broke bro i didn't know you were broke i'm saying if i'm gonna spend 90 you know i'll just do it at home

what i think that but that's what i'm explaining to you is that i think that they should just charge that he christopher nolan just doesn't want to be released direct to to streaming right because he's a fucking snob but like most people like mulan mulan is going to make a fucking fortune because they're doing straight to streaming people are home and they're definitely down to pay 25 instead of mulan has already been yeah just in the last two days of people's you know what renting that shit for their kids just you know hundreds of millions of dollars have been made luckily the sofia coppola bill murray movie comes out um that's an apple tv exclusive so and i have a i have a free apple tv membership for one year because i i was i purchased a new laptop so that's good damn i didn't know that maybe i should get apple tv i heard the morning shows decent decent decent watch every it's it's so funny everybody i only hear two things about the morning show it's great or it's awful there's no in between i i that much like this podcast so i'm probably i would be i would be alex really liked it i i just didn't have apple tv at the time so now i do so maybe i should i mean i just don't i i think it's interesting that jennifer aniston has just never ever had one good thing happen after friends it's insane not one come on was she in i was she in like a long came poly or something um probably yeah she she was in she was in all kinds of no dude no bro but i'm i mean not really that's the it's such a weird thing like that shit ruined her life yeah dumpling was trash office christmas party trash um murder mystery space office space but office space might have been before friends no there was another movie called office christmas party um oh i remember that murder mystery with adam sandler one of the worst movies ever horrible boss yeah she's in only bad movies yeah she's only bad shit the only good movie she was in was mother's day 2016 sounds sounds fire shitty romper damn that sucks why yeah why do you even do that just you have so much money and just none of the friends none of the friends cast is i mean schwimmer does like broadway and is like respected and then i guess joey actually joey did he's the he's the one who has like the hbo shows that people like of all the people damn bro

couldn't be me i'd get the bag and i'd retire i'd just be well yeah you look like matthew perry gone off those oxys looking like you're waddling down no no no i'm back when i was in high school i was dead dead ringer for swimmer at the time when i had when i had dyed black hair and my little hardcore caesar i was swim swim hive all day good to know next question discuss big sean's detroit too and SZA's new video I have not listened to SZA's new song but it's boring it's boring I hate to tell you guys but yet again it's fucking boring um yes somebody tweeted SZA makes music for people who text god what is it like text I don't want to bother you anymore I won't bother you multiple times Which is very, very, very true. I really like SZA as a package. I think she's really talented. I like her presence on stage, the whole thing. Her debut album, it grew on me. That album was good. I agree. It grew on me as well. This song didn't do much for me, even though it's got Ty Dolla $ign on it, who I fucking love. Dolla $ign. But everyone listening to this podcast at this point should know that don't come asking for our thoughts on Big Sean. It's pretty bad. It's not as bad as J. Cole. Big Sean is washed. I just pulled my car out of the fucking dealership, bro. Big Sean ain't even on the radar of importance. Big Sean is washed, fluffed, and folded, pressed, and starched. Big Sean, I did notice those records still come out with good music. Kanye's still got his hooks in that motherfucker. The same way Usher still gets a bag off Bieber. exactly but man yeah big sean whoever asked that like what do you what why are you worried about big sean that's the you should be looking inside bro stephanie come on steph she also had another question thoughts on slits in the eyebrows abraham lincoln facial hair and white denim these are all very specific questions slits in the eyebrows depends on who's getting them but you know six nine looks pretty good with them if you ask me

Dude, that's six. I'm sorry. We got to talk about that. Joe Coscarelli, six, nine, the Joe Coscarelli, our shooter, former guest, Joe Coscarelli, his days, he went hard body. He went, he went hard body at little rainbow head. Yo, Joe, we need to get Joe on the podcast again because he's got, he's got a 20 rack on his head and he's got, he's got two days left. It's not, it's not sweet for him right now. He's like, wait, you really compare yourself to Tupac fam. It's just so sick. I mean, I think he will have a similar cultural impact that Tupac did after 6ix9ine is murdered, which will happen in the next 10 years or so. I think he knows that dying is a part of his plan. Yeah, dying is the only way to be cemented anymore. And honestly, it's crazy, but our society, everything just moves so fast that you have to die for people to care. It's true. It's crazy, dude. The difference is Tupac was spreading a message of love, hope, and wisdom, and 6ix9ine was simply just trolling. Both things are very cool, but I think Tupac will go down. Tupac may be getting into heaven, depending on how many women he raped or not raped, but 6ix9ine, he's going into troll heaven. The article, the Daniel Arnold photos, everything about that thing was absolutely outstanding. I'm very happy that that exists. White jeans are cool, by the way. I love 6ix9ine drinking a hot cup of McCafe coffee. How old is he? Like 22 or something? He's like a 22-year-old maniac drinking hot coffee from McDonald's in the middle of summer. in new york that's how you know he's not that's how you know he's not a real human yeah that's a good point and that's how you know he's not an industry plant damn really makes you think tj yeah it's the little things that we have to pay attention to on this true crime podcast um abraham lincoln facial hair that's kind of an intro i've never heard it described as that i guess that's facial hair that the fellas do to accentuate the lack of their their jawline yes that's what it seems like to me well you know i've been doing that

for 20 years so next question um yeah we need to okay um ronnie said we need a breakdown of the pop star video we already did but then he said which celeb is the worst actor i guess a lot of people are talking about how like drake wants to be an actor so bad and then everyone's acting is drake to forget that drake is started as an actor i love drake's acting in that video that video of him eating spaghetti out of his his like silver bowl plaque oh so bad you see that well it wasn't cacio pepe so i kept scrolling like a red sauce seems a little i don't know gauche a true amateur would say something like that red sauce is red sauce is the final level bro cacio pepe that's the fucking taste influencer of pasta bro bro do you really want to spill red sauce on your fucking spotty trophy that's what i'm saying bro We got to think about cleanup. We got to think about cleanup, Jason. Bro, I wear the white tee and I throw it away. It's not a problem for me. All right, Damon. Thank you. Brendan, tips for two friends who want to get into tennis. It depends. Are they hot? The tip is buy a racket and go play. What do you mean? What tip do you... I don't know what you need. Well, Chris is not the person to ask because he needs the tips himself. But I would say don't be afraid to start off with practice balls and then get into it. And then work your way up because you're instantly going to want to start smacking that ball hard body style. And it's going to be frustrating when the ball just flies out of the court over and over again or into the net. so really really start at the bottom and work your way up because it truly takes years to be able to get to the point where you're able to play tennis even at a moderate level load load a high and keep the footwork moving you know see it wasn't too hard for you to squirt a tip out chris that's good advice yep thanks jason oh and and true true tip from from our trainer jake is if um you know you have to move your feet into position first before you even think about swinging that racket and

Your shoes always should be squeaking on the ground. If you don't do a squeak, that's how you know the shot is not going to be for me. It's true. You got to squeak like fucking 6'[redacted address]. Okay, Tate, is Jason responsible for the piles of dumped mail in Glendale? I don't know about dumped mail, but there has been some right-wing propaganda fake newspapers. that i've really in the mail at the crib yeah glendale not surprisingly specifically it's like it's a it looks like a pretty nice newspaper smaller and every single article is anti-chinese propaganda it's so bizarre and and it makes me worried because there's like many old people who are receiving this thinking it is just a real newspaper and they're like oh my gosh damn i didn't think about that there's going door to door putting this shit in mailboxes fuck yeah bro but i guess that's been happening since the dawn of time and people who are uninformed and not reading you know the news or learning about the world are just going to get it from a fake newspaper and you know that's how propaganda fuels the demise of humanity i feel like this is something you could ball victim to so let's not talk that crazy about it uh zach wants to know chris's running regime how many mpw does he follow a training plan and somebody else also asked is it tacky to post your strava activities on social media yes it's tacky it's tacky to post anything about with data on it it's it's like you know what you know when you're posting a little 25 Your $25 donation receipt looking for a pat on the back? It's the same thing when you post your little two-mile jog. Nobody needs to pat you on the back for two miles. Okay, I have a caveat. Unless the Strava map is you drawing a dick or some titties out with your run map, don't post that shit on Instagram. Unless you've drawn a cool symbol, keep it off the TL. Unless you're getting a Star of David jog in, I don't care. Yeah, on a holy day.

no i i actually i don't understand stick to your stick to your running discord for to me your stats that that feels like a gratuitous selfie like just different casing but also you know if you're if you're trying to attract a a partner who is jog hive you know that could be a way to impress good point perhaps i guess you know like i'm putting in this work i My running pattern has unfortunately been upended because of my ankle injury, but I'm coming back to life after two weeks of Peloton only. Evanescence style, bring me back to life. Thank God. So your low impact Peloton training is starting to pay off? Well, I went to the acupuncturist and she fucked me up a little bit. And then I've just been doing the Peloton and seeing the trainer and it's feeling good. it's feeling good yeah what is that we were talking about the peloton music licensing on the other we're talking about yeah we talked about it in person and i i don't i'm very interested to know what the deals look like i'm sure somebody listening knows because it's it's not out of home it's like in home use so it's like it's basically me listening to spotify or apple music or youtube but i'm i'm sure it's different because it's corporate but it would be interesting to know the ins and outs It would. Yeah. And what is the difference between that and people playing music on their Twitch stream or their YouTube stream where you can't do that? And why can people listen to licensed music on their pornography camera sites? There's a lot of different weird things going on. Basically, if you work at Peloton, hit the DMs. I will try it out. If you work at Peloton, let me know because I would like to interview instructor Alex Trufant. um he's my personal favorite and he's funny and i just really want to know do you follow him on on twitter no but he's fucking hilarious in the actual sessions like he says funny shit and is like actually has good taste and he played the he played the meek mill intro and was like yo if you got kids bring me here right now let him hear this shit and i thought that was really funny whoa yeah i mean legendary mill meek mill song the only meek mill song really that exists in my in my sure

um yeah well i think it would be interesting to do a podcast with a peloton instructor and just you know see i agree what's in that big beautiful brain of his i mean he's he also is i believe he's from the hamptons which is also interesting you can't make this up bro you really can't um okay what are the go-to cooking food shows you guys watch chris watches a lot um I would say, you know, there's not that much that I watch. It's almost all bad, but the new Chef's Table barbecue is a beautiful tear-drinking television if you want to watch that. I'm straight. Food is fuel, losers. I don't want to talk about it. Need some Tour de France takes. Don't have any Tour de France takes. Thoughts on the band Bush? That's an interesting one. I think Chris likes a little Bush. I mean, I've never really thought about it, but I'm not mad either. He looks amazing. Who, Gavi? Yeah, he looks incredible. You know, he's a really big tennis player. Oh, I mean, with forearms like that. i'd be surprised if he wasn't but he's been he's been gripping that mic stand so hard you know those forearms really got big well i mean when when it's covered with so much glycerin you have to hold on tight all right okay we'll slip out but a lot of people not a lot but two were bringing attention to the fact that my commentary on on trump people and boats from a couple episodes ago has come to life over this weekend at lake travis it did come true jason and it's cool i don't really know if there's anything to talk about other than you know it's cool to watch a bunch of trump people almost drown i guess but um do you think that this is you know some do you think this is just a thing that happened or do you think this is like a staged event you know for some type of weird conspiracy going on do you think

I think they're eating babies, and they all got so big from eating children that the boat sank. Look, I don't know if that's true, but it seems feasible to me. Well, people were asking our thoughts on Million Dollar Beach House, which I haven't seen. My partner will not let me watch it, which is a bummer. Because she knows you're going to go cop? All it takes is just the littlest thing for me to buy property in the Hamptons. I am teetering on a razor's edge, the slightest thing, and we're signing the papers. I haven't watched that either. I've only been watching the U.S. Open and chiropractor videos on YouTube, so sorry. What is up with you watching the chiropractor videos on YouTube? What are we getting out of it? What is the pleasure that you get from this? I don't really know. I love the idea. I love seeing people get released. What is the moment that happens that's the big payoff? A lot of people are into it for the loudest pops. I'm more into it. There's one guy that does a lot of athletes and MMA guys. And I like when he makes them cry, kind of. Because it's like a combination of chiropractic and like massage and fascial scraping and like everything. So I like when these giant guys come in and this guy like sticks two fingers in their armpit and they start like crying. Wow. I think I know I can pick out a few of our Twitter followers who are going to be turned on by the thought of you liking that. Well, I do. I mean, I also, I think honestly, if I wasn't, if I didn't have. That is a specific fetish though, you know. Well, I just, I love getting rubbed down and painful massage and acupuncture and facial scraping, all that shit, facial scraping. And so I think I just, I'm not getting as much of it out as I would want right now due to the novel coronavirus. So I think that it's, I like to see it. And also, Jason, honestly. You want to get worn out. Exactly. You want to get road hard and hung up wet.

dead ass bro but i i'd also i've you know i've started to think about what career path i would take if everything fell apart and this podcast stopped bringing in millions of dollars a year right and when it all falls down when it all falls down kind of a west voice i think honestly it used to be soul cycle instructor yeah and i think i've pivoted now to i think i would like to be like a sports therapist like massage therapist chiropractor like that kind of guy i think that would really work for me i've thought about that as well whenever i'm like really really really high and i'm like giving my girlfriend a massage and i'm like damn bro i think i could get called up to the big leagues like i am murking this massage right now no but everything everything i see in that world is either it's just all uncool i think there's a way to make that shit look good and feel good and really bring in some dolores yeah i mean i think the way you do it is you have it be very expensive and then i think I think what I could do, I could be, I would like to be like the musician actor guy instead of athlete. You know what I mean? So it's like when, you know, when somebody comes off tour, exactly. When somebody comes off tour, they come see big CB to set them up. Cause their neck feeling a little funny after, after Rocky, you know, when Travis Scott lower back hurts from stage diving, he comes and sees his, the president of cactus Jack records. Who's also a masseuse. Okay. Who, who, what celebrity? dead or alive, would you want to massage the most? Not in a sexual way. No, this isn't sexual at all. This is all business. You're a professional licensed masseuse. Fuck, dude. I don't know. Who deserves it the most? I mean, Ben Affleck is nice and broad. Maybe their shoulders are probably a little tense. You know what I'm saying? He has a massive back with a massive dragon tattoo. It's going to be taxing. It's going to be like parking a Mack truck. It's not easy work. Maybe then it's somebody a little leaner and sexier like Pattinson post-Batman. He's kind of buff, but he wants to have a cheeky cig and a pint and then lay down and let Daddy go to work on his back with my elbow. The fundamentals are there, but he's gotten a little soft now that we stopped filming. You have a little something to chew on. Exactly. I need to get him ready, limber, and flexible so that he can keep...

tearing down Suki Waterhouse's British cakes. Speaking of British cakes, I wouldn't mind giving Adele a massage. Well, you are a Betty boy. Just so I could see what... We've all seen photos of it and most people don't believe it. So I feel like that's the best way to find out to see what bad gal is really working with. I mean... I think you're sexualizing the massage more than you should, unfortunately. No, no, no. It's more of just, like, I want to literally do, like, a physical test, an inspection of her body and skin to see, like, what is, like, is she wearing, like, a corset, a waist trainer? Is she wearing, you know, is it, like, a mirror system that she gets to look like this? Or has she been actually putting in the work? Bro, I think Adele's got paper and did the work. Like, that's the thing. It's, like, if you don't... If you're Adele and you're like, you know what? I'm tired of being overweight. I want to get in shape. I want to feel better. I want to live longer. Galdem wants to thin down. And she's also got kids now. You know what I mean? So I think that helps. But it's like, dude, if you have a trainer and a chef, it ain't that hard to do that if you give yourself a year out of the spotlight. But also, I feel like she would really appreciate a good massage versus... I don't know if Robert Pattinson would really appreciate it. He wouldn't be moaning and groaning. You ain't ever gotten a massage from Big CB, baby. You don't know what that feels like. You know what I'm saying? You don't know how these thumbs work. What them thumbs do. What them thumbs do, though. What the thumbies do. Jason, healthy recipes, blah, blah, blah. I'm not going to answer that. Go follow Bon Appetit. Sorry, fam. Have you checked out this thing called Bon Appetit YouTube? It's pretty cool. It used to be really great. source for different white guys and girls to talk about fried rice um make chris talk about thorlo socks i've been rocking with them for a while and i'm feeling the co-sound he's already talked about them but i'm glad that you are also feeling them same need a deep dive on the hills cast encounters and peak tj during t peak tj nightlife um there weren't really any other than

A photo of you and Whitney that was posted for your birthday by a friend of the show, Dan O. Yeah, other than the time where, you know, usual suspect style, I had to escort Whitney through the kitchen of a nightclub. When I see that picture, you look so uncomfortable. It's like the game just zapped from your body. You had no game. I know. I mean, like, it took everything I had in me just to not do a hover hand. So the fact that I'm actually gripping grain was a victory for me. You know, real celebrities don't touch their fans because they think it's disgusting. Like at the meet and greet. I'm not a celebrity. That's the problem. Continue. Yeah, like a real fan of celebrities knows not to touch unless you say, I'll get in here. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Unless you're at the Kelly Clarkson show doing a meet and greet. Kelly's touching everyone. She needs, you know. She's on the level where she has to still touch her fans. Which is a good place to be, if you ask me. Most overrated restaurant in New York and LA. Also, an update on Chris's love life. Oh, shit. Damn. I love eating overrated restaurants, and Chris loves his LP. I mean, most overrated restaurant in LA? I mean, there's just so many. But I'm going to go with Sugarfish, personally. That's pretty good, I feel like. Definitely not Boa. We went to Lowry's Steakhouse for my B-Day a couple days ago. And it was impossible to not do an A-B comparison to the good folks at Boa. And Boa came out on top over Lowry's, which is something I thought would never... Exit my sweet little house. Bro, Boa crushed Lowry's, I would say. The dining experience was better. The salad was better. The steak was more enjoyable. The dessert. The dessert was much better. The dessert was better. The cocktail program was better. Cocktail program. The A-B test of martinis for both places. Lowry's failed.

i don't know in new york it's tough i don't i don't know i mean i i don't go i don't overrated is probably some like pizza place i've never been to before i think the most overrated restaurant in new york is any restaurant that's an australian one good point great point yeah yeah any any restaurant that is mind-blowing because they have eggs and toast and avocado and a flat white is like if you're waiting in line for that you're a cuck yeah proper proper dins and proper brekkie is is not just an egg where the yolk is a little bit more yellow and it's a bit different that that is overrated to me and also kismet in la and also all time in la that's over all time all time might be the worst for me let us pray baby i've only been once and i was like why is this salad 35 and i don't even care i'm always down to overpay you know i don't give a fuck about that but like sitting sitting outside on hype i don't know i just that place i don't get it but people love it Couldn't be me at all whatsoever. I can make that same food at home for a sixth of the price. See, that's the thing. I hate when people use that excuse because I can't make anything at home. So that doesn't even play. That doesn't factor in for me. Yeah, you don't have that card in your hand to play, unfortunately, but I do. I don't. I really don't. A couple more questions as we round the finish line. Any public tennis courts in LA Glendale? I'm not going to tell you any of that shit. We already have too many people in the courts. Losers. Best hardcore show you've ever attended and why? Ooh, that is a toughie. I honestly can't remember that well. I mean, I went to the California Takeover just a few months ago, and that was one of the better hardcore experiences I've had because it was one of the only hardcore shows I've ever been to where I was blacked out drunk. Good point, yeah. It's a lot different. I feel like I saw Converge, American Nightmare in their prime in Atlanta. that was pretty fucking crazy i feel that that that like defined my era so that was pretty good under the couch which is like the venue we grew up going to yeah i mean for me all the best ones were probably that or like when you would go see like little little venues with big bands where it was like a special moment like you know like a house show or a backyard show where yeah but like maybe the the craziest experience was like

because when we were all into hardcore music back then it was it was all about just like bros and fighting and stabbings and stuff but the you would also go because you know we were all like incel teens and like no one was really getting laid yet or talking to women but there the the library that i grew up in huntington beach the huntington beach library it's which you've taken me to beautiful architectural masterpiece architectural masterpiece but they used to have hardcore shows there What? In one of the rooms. And I've seen crazy shows there over the years. But one year, there was an emo tour where every badass 15-year-old emo chick in Southern California pulled up Texas Is The Reason Promise Ring doublehead on tour at the library where I grew up going to. And there was, like, the parking lot was a movie. of just like so many chicks wearing overalls and jack purcells and they're all fine as hell and you know every every email it was like the nba all-star weekend for 15 year old emo thoughts so we pulled out we were 16 17 being like damn like it's all here bro this is This is my birding man. This is my Coachella all rolled into one. That's actually, that's great. That's a great story. And also overalls of Jack Purcells really situates me in the time with like barrettes in their hair too. You know what I mean? It's like really a look. Damn, that's funny as fuck. And definitely none of us got our dick sucks at all. And we just went to Del Taco and then that was it. That's the end of every night in hardcore land is hanging out in a parking lot with 10 guys. but hey look how we turned out yeah now we're now we're podcasters um jason it's been it's been great talking to you king thanks for um linking on while i'm on holiday hey happy happy 40th birthday i'm i'm happy that you're still here and that you're still walking the path you know parting the rivers doing god's work talking to me talking to me three times a week publicly and many more times privately

Many, many more to come, yes. And thank you guys all for listening. Thank you for ordering all those hats. We're shipping all of those out this week. And then keep your eyes peeled. We have a new long-sleeved tee that is going to be sizzling. I don't know if they're ready, Jason. I don't know. We might have to wait. And also give a shout-out to Lindsey. who made the how long gone cookies uh lindsey lindsey bakes on instagram right that's her name yeah yeah lindsey bay like getting her comments and say let me get a bite you know what i'm saying give her a let me get a bite um yeah lindsey was nice to make the cookies and i'm glad we held on to those to celebrate jason's birthday and our and our 75th episode um because because this train is on the fucking tracks and it's going until it falls off all right jason i'll talk to you soon bro bye