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065. - Chris Black and Jason Stewart

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A one on one pod today, Chris and Jason chat about polo shirts, the Clubhouse app, non alcoholic beverages, inheritance, Jason’s blank mind, a recent trip to Erewhon, The Sopranos, Peloton, and TSA pre-check.twitter.com/donetodeathtwitter.com/themjeans--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/howlonggone/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00-1:41

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What's up, bitch? Hi, Chris. How are you? Good to see you again. Well, you can't see me, but I'm great, Jason. How are you today? We got a one-on-one pod. So, yes, I can't see you. It is FaceTime audio only. No video. I do have a shirt on for you, unfortunately. I'm sorry to disappoint you. Walk me through your shirt. Is it a navy blue polo? Shockingly, yes, it is. It is. And honestly, the disrespect that this polo is received online from some of our listeners is not only hurtful, but also harmful. Hurtful and harmful. What is it? I just need to personally stick up for the polo shirt. I feel like it gets a bad rap as a garment in general. Because it's like a... startup bro uniform like uh we get it you're an investor and if you're not then you're like a like a preppy rowing lacrosse kind of guy yes and i'm the latter i wish except i've never rode or played lacrosse but they the lacrosse players have great traps you know what i mean so that's something to look forward to the trapezius muscle the trapezius muscle they're quite wide like the winklevoss twins right right the only trap that they've ever Been a part of. Is the fantastic muscle that connects their neck to their shoulders. This is a very different trap than we usually discuss on this show. But yeah, I just think the t-shirt. I trapped in Yale. Sorry, go ahead. I just think the t-shirt has eclipsed the polo. And I think they're both valuable members of the closet. Well, I think the t-shirt has been more popular than the polo shirt for the last 100 years at least. Maybe. Maybe. Depends on what circles you're in, TJ. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I mean, I have a decent amount of polos in the closet, and I think they're great. I never see you rock a polo. I guess every once in a while you rock a sand-colored polo that really washes you out, but otherwise. Well, I have navy, I have white, I have black, and I have a kind of darker gray khaki that I guess apparently washes me out.

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And these are all different brands and manufacturers? There's not even a consistent fit or through line with this collection of polos? We're all over the place, bitch. Wow, that's actually crazy. I couldn't absolutely positively could not be me. You only wear clothing from Uniqlo? That's what's going on? No, but polo shirts, I think for the price and the amount of wear I get, and I want them to be washed and dried an extreme amount of times to be broken in properly, the Uniqlo is the most cost-effective and stylish solution for those needs. Well, I would do that if they made them in tall sizes, but I haven't been able to find them. Oh, I didn't realize that. I always forget about your body issues. Most people do. Well, we try to because we want to normalize you. But unfortunately, that's something that's going to be more difficult. Who's we? Society in general. You know what I mean? Society in general wants to normalize heightists. You look crazy, like walking down the street, obviously. And a lot of people want to point that out to you. But as your friend and colleague, I don't want to do that. I want to make it seem like looking like Gumby is normal. Damn, I feel like I'm the wheelchair friend right now all of a sudden. I went from being a tall cis white male to a charity case. And I'm finally home. I was about to say, luckily in 2020, you can be both. Those things are not mutually exclusive. Depending on what circles you run in. Exactly. And I think depending on what circles you run in is kind of like the answer to everything really right now. or depending on which discord rooms you are a member of uh well in my case because i'm not a fucking nerd i'm not a member of any of them um and you know i'm getting up i'm getting a hard press to join um the uh the one where you talk into the phone uh clubhouse Yeah. What do you mean you're getting hard? Like your peers who are on it are saying like, hey, we got to get your loudmouth ass on Clubhouse? Yes, and I'm starting to think they're getting paid by Big Clubhouse or something. Like you're on the take. You know what I mean? They're on the take to get influencers of note. So big tech app developer. We're like, we're test flighting this application where a bunch of leaders of the industry.

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Exactly. Talking to their phone and then other people listen, they need you there. And there's a bounty on your head. Jason, I think you said it yourself, leaders of industry. So therefore, I'm involved in those conversations. What industry? It could be many. I don't even know. Unfortunately for you, I think they just want to pick your brain right now, Chris. I don't know if the bag is coming. I don't think it's bag related. I think it's like those type of people love to just exchange ideas freely in a new forum. You're talking about bosses and kings? Yeah. Because ladies is pimps too, and they can also get a pop-in on Clubhouse to exchange ideas. I think Clubhouse and its popularity, unfortunately, is full of guys who wear puffy vests. But people we know are on it. People I know, like, and respect are on it. I did sign up. And unfortunately, during the sign-up process, I just wasn't concentrating. And I made an error. And I locked in the name, but it's Chris Black with no K. So it's just a C. So I can't use that. I mean, that's unusable. So I don't know what I'm going to do. That's your fucking... postal service message board login name yeah dude it's like i don't know what i'm supposed to do so so i'm gonna start calling you chris blanc no so i guess i have to hit so someone at clubhouse corporate please holler at me if you listen to this podcast and if we can get my full name changed i'll think about using your little application so you're dumb ass Okay, well, we should explain what Clubhouse is for all of the normies listening who are unaware. They're not a member of the tech elite Illuminati. Yeah, go ahead and explain it because I don't know. I also have it, but I have yet to use it. I get push notifications every day letting me know that a guy with the puppy vest started following me.

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And shout out, thanks to everyone on Clubhouse. You guys rock. It's a place where it's an audio only community where people have conversations in these little audio rooms and then you're able to listen in on them as a spectator. But I think you, I don't know if you, I don't know if you can't, I don't know. I mean, I heard from a friend that Virgil Abloh said, you know, released some information, you know, that he was making a new silhouette for Nike, which is like big news in a clubhouse session. But I don't know if clubhouse sessions, I don't know if you can just listen. We announced the silhouette in a clubhouse session? Well, not, not, he didn't explain it fully. He just said like, you know what's coming, baby. Exactly. I mean, but that's why Clubhouse is getting these big tech bucks. But I don't understand. Do you think that the news of that happening, him making that announcement in Clubhouse, was a premeditated, organized thing? No. Or do you think that happened organically? No, I think DJ Virgil was just going off the motherfucking dome like he was at, you know. He was in Ibiza off a bean. He was excited to let some new silhouette news spray in the clubhouse, and boy, did he. Yes, yes. He decided to bypass a footwear news exclusive and go straight to clubhouse to release the information himself. It's called taking control of the fucking narrative is what we call that in the communications world. It's owning your story and not letting someone else tell it for you. To not give that exclusive to footwearnews.com takes a lot of restraint, and that's why he's kind of at the top of his game right now. You know, Jason, I'm not going to let you sit here and slander footwear news, a widely known industry publication. It's the Hollywood reporter of footwear. Is that right? I mean, you could be absolutely not joking right now. I'm not joking at all. I mean, I don't read it, but I actually had a conversation about this last night at an outdoor dinner with Lauren Sherman and Dan Frommer. Do not say at an outdoor dinner, you fucking super spreader. We know what was going on. It was actually outdoors.

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How did they like the wine selections, by the way? They were very excited about the wine selections. I think they were already a fan of the orange one that you picked out. The Mein Klang. Yeah, they had the other one. I also bought an extra bottle of Mein Klang just to keep on ice here at the hotel in case I need to show up with a gift. That's smart. You're becoming an Angelina. I'm surprised they didn't try to get you to drink a bottle of House, a non-alcoholic startup drink. I hate non-alcoholic drinks. I guess, does water count as a non-alcoholic drink? No. We've talked about this before, but the spread of non-alcoholic drinks is so unnecessary and just depressing to me. It's America's poison. I mean, but you know, Lauren did have something that I'd never seen before, which is a La Croix, but it's cola flavored. Ooh, sounds Canadian. She liked it. I'd never seen it before. I didn't try one because I just was unclear on what it was. Cola flavored La Croix. That just means it's a Coke? I don't understand. It's sparkling water, so it's like watered down Coke sitting in a glass of ice? We took water and we carbonated it, which adds air to it, and that will make it kind of fizzy. And then we add flavor from the Cola Nut. It's kind of a new idea. I would really like to get Nuts.com as a sponsor for this fucking podcast. Good luck, bro. I mean, I feel like they're in the zone. I mean, I feel like we could push Big Nut on this podcast. Why is that funny, Jason? You wouldn't want to get paid and also get a discount on almonds, like on sprouted almonds? Those are very expensive, Jason. I love sprouted almonds. Let me tell you. Why do they taste so much better? Do you have the science behind that? Because they really do hit different. The texture, everything about it is just exquisite. It's simply just the preparation. I mean, I was just laughing because you said two words next to each other, which were big nut, and that just made me chuckle regardless of the context. Grow up, Jason. Grow the fuck up. My God. We're talking about making money here. We're not talking about the kind of nut you're talking about, you little freak. I think that the sprouted nut has to do with the way that it is prepared. I think it's soaked. Soaked in a liquid for a little while, and then maybe it's like...

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dried in a specific way but it kind of makes it uh it well first of all it really improves that mouth feel um but it gives you a little bit of a snap in between a raw and a roasted that is pleasant on the palate they're a little bit hard to i mean they have them at whole foods correct they have them at like a regular health food store yeah yeah I feel like it's the kind of thing I'd want to buy in bulk because it would feel great to spend like $100 on a bag of nuts that would show up and it wouldn't be that big. It would not. No, I mean, if you $100 worth of sprouted nuts at Erewhon, that's going to be two handfuls worth. Damn. And worth every penny. Well, I mean, like I said, I don't... We're going to get into Erewhon later on in this pod, don't worry. But I think... Oh, okay. I wanted to, I mean. Pander to me, TJ. Pander to me. I mean, is anybody listening to this on Clubhouse? I want to learn more about it. I want to know if it's something that we can use with this podcast. Well, I was invited by a friend of the show, Gian DeLeon from High Stobiety. Benjamin Edgar, also a friend of the show, is on it. And Ben Dietz, another friend of the show, is on it. Those are the three people I know on it. They are loosely connected to startup world, of course, all of them. Yeah, I mean, I have a lot of dorky friends who are on this app, and they all have a lot more money than we do. Do you think if we were dorks, we would be rich, or do you think it's too far? It's like we're too cool already. No amount of dorkiness could make us uncool enough to be rich. That's kind of what I think, too. So I'm happy to be like... Well, you know, rich means different things, Jason. It's a sliding scale. I don't need to be super rich. And unfortunately, old money is out of the question because that's not the way I was born. So just regular, like kind of a classic. You can still inherit. What am I going to inherit? A Honda Accord? What the fuck am I going to inherit? Who knows? Anything is possible in this crazy world. Do you think my dad's keeping some shit tucked? Well, I don't think it's your dad.

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Specifically, but I mean, you might come into... Oh, if you die, I'm going to get left some fucking big worn out shoes. Like, what the fuck am I going to get? Who's going to lose me anything? No one likes me. Like, what am I going to get? They are new old stock and they are worth something on casual mail resale market, bitch. No, I'm saying, you know, anything like... So I have a neighbor. Like, our neighbor is this very sweet old man who's like... How close is he to dying? That's the question. Any day? He's a few years away from hitting 90. So you're putting in a lot of work now in this relationship? I'm putting in a decent amount of work. He's a very, very sweet old guy. He goes out in gardens every day, and we talk, and he's just great. Best neighbor you could ever think of. But at some point... If he has no family and he likes TJ a lot, who's to say when he goes, the house is not willed to me? I can say that. There's no fucking way this guy. This guy barely knows your ass. If he dies in two or three years, how much time can you spend this guy? He's not going to leave you a fucking house. Okay, riddle me this. You've seen the Curb Your Enthusiasm spite store episode, right? Yes, I actually have. Where he opens up the Latte Larry's in spite of Mocha Joe's just to take him down. So let's say my neighbor, he has three kids and they're all terrible people and he hates them. So he could will his home to Big TJ just to spite them for being shitty. So his children by birth that he created himself. Yeah, they have become monsters who have treated him horribly over the years. So these people are convicted of elder abuse, and his neighbor, this goofy fuck-up, is flopping around next door. You become friends, and now you're Latte Larry, and you're getting the... Bro, I'm not flopping around.

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What would you say you're doing? Gracefully moving like a swan? I am commanding the turf with a strong and, frankly, sexy presence. First of all, cutting the sleeves off your shirt doesn't make you sexy. Second of all, it's not turf. It's actually natural grass. What if somebody else cuts them off for me? Is that a step up? No. I mean, I know you're trying to show off your vascular biceps, which I appreciate, and I love to see you thriving. It doesn't feel like it. I don't think either of us are getting anything in anybody's will, but if it was going to happen to anyone, it would definitely be me before you. Really? You don't think that you're ever going to? I mean, I'll get something, but I'm not going to get anything life-changing. Yeah, I have never been willed anything in my life. Well, me neither, but we're also fairly young. Yeah, there's a good chance that I won't as well. I don't – I'm definitely – I'll definitely get something. I don't know what that will be. But, I mean, I don't know. Now that my sister had those twins, my status in the family is – I don't know if it's fallen. I think I'm still the Beyonce. But I think it's going to take a hit as they age. Well, being the Beyonce in the family as it pertains to willing items and wealth is not a good place to be. You know, if I come into some wealth and I need to hand it out to a deserving mouth who needs it the most, I'm not giving it to the Beyonce of the family. You're an I-N-D-E-P-N-D. You pay your own car note and your bills are paid on time. You don't need my fucking help. Well, it's not about that, Jason. It's about legacy. Expand on that, brother. I mean, adorable babies are – unfortunately, they don't carry the black name. So you tell me, Jason. The name could die with me, and that's a great power that I hold. Cute as a button, but a black you are not. Exactly, exactly. I didn't think about it that way. Yeah, well, you don't – I understand. You don't think about legacy as much as I do. You don't – you're kind of – I don't need to think about legacy as much as you do because I haven't taken a –

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a staunch stance against being a birther like you have. So it's not a thing that's on my mind at all times like yours, keeping you up at night. Jason, as much time as we spend together, as much time as we speak to each other, I rarely know what is on your mind. So this is not a shock to me and probably not even a shock to the listeners. What goes on in there? It could be anybody's guess. You know what I mean? Is he thinking about fucking almonds? Is he thinking about salad sauce? Is he thinking about kettlebells? There's only a few subjects I can even think of that you care about. Yeah, the hard drive clicking away inside of this body, she does not hold terabytes, that's for sure. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, so do our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world... writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly. A website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative, but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools. So those future graduates can find me and, you know, I'm able to accept quote unquote donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new, you know, 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money. Show your investor all of your cool analytics of what's going on. They're going to want to get in early. And we can use Blueprint AI to make your website look as professional as your competition, if not more. So head to squarespace.com slash howlong for a free trial. When you're ready to launch, use offer code howlong to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or a domain.

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but still effortless. Yeah, Chris, linen season is here. I wore a linen blazer to dinner a few nights ago in the warm California sun. But, you know, you got that Italy trip coming up this summer and quality European linen pants and shirts. Upgrade that look starting at just $34. You know, if you get a nice linen suit, a little t-shirt underneath it, some chill shoes, you're looking good, but you're staying cool. The inside of your special areas are nice and dry as you turn up with your besties. So elevate that summer wardrobe. Go to quince.com slash how long for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, even on a nice holiday now available in Canada. That is Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince punto com slash how long. No, it's a small. I would say you're more of like a late night. You're a late 90. [redacted address], I would say, actually. Don't come for a big zip. I love big zip. Big zip. I like to deprive my audience of emotion or anything and then strike with something just to amuse myself, really. Which is not very good in the grand scheme of communication. That's a fair description of your behavior that I've seen over our long and tenuous friendship. But that's not a surprise. That's not a surprise to me at all. But look, as long as there's something going on up there, that makes me feel good because I don't, you know, a muscle of the brain size should not be rested as much as yours is. Well, I mean, much like the trapdoor spider or something, I only appear to be at rest. I see. I see. This is just to deter you and then I can strike when you least expect it.

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And really just knock your socks off. Well, I've been waiting for like 12 years, I think, now for a strike. So I guess I'll keep waiting. Bitch, I strike every day. You cackle away all day long. I guess if it's humor-related, yes, you do strike. Anything else I'm not seeing, but yes, humor-related, you are striking hard. Okay. Well, better than nothing. Exactly. We all have specialties. We all specialize. So I did go to Erewhon yesterday. And I haven't been inside of an Erewhon in a long time, actually. Too bad for you, loser. And I always took a pretty strong opposition to Erewhon because it wasn't the type of market for me. I believed that all of their pre-made foods were ridiculously overpriced and not very good. Cheap TJ strikes again. Continue. I thought their selection of produce and meats were all show and no go. Also ridiculously overpriced and not very high quality, which I still stand by. But I went to the Pacific Palisades location, which is an abridged version of... Why don't you tell? It only plays the hits. Why don't you tell the listeners, though, who put you on? Who told me that Erewhon has a location in the Palisades? Yes, Jason. Who? I guess that was... If it wasn't for you, I would have not ever known that they had one. That is true. Thank you. It was weird because I've never even heard of the Pacific Palisades. I guess on the west side of L.A., there's a whole big ocean and stuff. Jason, I will slap you through the phone, soldier boy voice. Don't do this. Don't do this. I'm just trying to say that I went there. I had a good experience. This is actually what influencing means. I went somewhere. I had a good experience. I relayed that to my...

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influential less so much less so but influential friend and now he went and now we're talking about it and the chain continues but tell us tell us let's walk us through your experience because you're right it is a smaller it's compared to the the beverly location it's it's it's small and quaint it feels i would even say neighborhoody it is very neighborhoody and i i saw many people in there you know purchase their goods and then walk out hotties though or no come on chris You know it was full of fucking hotties, you idiot. Do you have to make me say it out loud? I wanted to make you say it out loud, but I know the answer. Continue. Only chicks, though. No hot dudes. Which was interesting. I guess the fellas in PP aren't really pulling up to Erewhon. Or they're just not that hot. Or they're old. I don't know. All of the above. Yeah, it was... I just felt different being in there. I started to understand it, where the selection of things is just really ridiculous in the way that everything is packaged and laid out. There's a very specific rhyme and reason to how and why it's happening that way. And I decided to stop fighting it and just let it wash over me, and I experienced pleasure yesterday, that's for sure. I love to see this growth. And can you tell us what you purchased? Yeah, I mean, there... Don't say nothing, bitch. I would be mad as hell. Come on, bro. I copped it. I mean, I was there. There's a bottle of water that cost $26. And just to be clear, you did not buy that for me. I did not buy that for you. There was a bag of sweet potato. Crisps? I guess they're like freeze-dried, dehydrated sweet potato chips. Crisps? You mean like to have with a pint? Mm-hmm. An eight-ounce bag, $23.99. Sweet potatoes are expensive, Jason. Come on. No. Do you know how much one potato weighs? Eight ounces. Don't get caught up in this bullshit math, Jason.

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You noticed these because why, Jason? Because you wanted to buy them? What did you notice first? The attraction? I noticed how the packaging of the sweet potato snacks that cost $24 appeared to be made by my mom on MS Paint. It was a very terrible design. It was on my Instagram stories just yesterday. The brand is called Sweet Potato Awesome. Well, the name leaves a lot to be desired. I would love to try the snack. As you know, Jason, I'm the healthy snack whisperer. No one can pick out a healthy snack off rib like me. You are pretty good. I also... For a non-food person, I'm excellent. For somebody who does not really eat, your ability to find a healthy snack is... You're like a truffle-sniffing dog if it comes to a kale-flavored chip. As you said that, my stomach growled, and it gave me great pleasure. Shout-outs to my friend Olivia, who put me on to the Erewhon carrot cake, which I slid into yesterday. So you're saying you drove to the Palisades, this beautiful Caruso-owned Paradise Mall. That's right. And you had a piece of fucking carrot cake? What am I going to do? Get some soggy fried buffalo cauliflower that was made two days ago that's like ice cold? That shit is hot fire. So you literally, that's what you had yesterday? Okay, so I got a bag of kale-flavored cheesy Voyager chips. I got a slice of carrot cake. And I got a macadamia nut latte from Taika. This is a demented combo of items. I'm never going to get any of the hot food or the salad bar food there. That is like an abomination of food, if you ask me. It's my favorite restaurant. Getting some Japanese sweet potatoes and buffalo cauliflower and a kale white bean avocado salad. What's better than that? So many things are better than that. So did you sit outside? No. No, no, no. We just grabbed it. We just went in there and dicked around.

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You know, treated it like a museum or something. Looked at all the funny stuff. Did you hit the beach? Did not hit the beach. Went to Eataly afterwards and then copped actual food. So you're saying to me yesterday on your day off, I mean, I guess every day is your fucking day off. You went to two different grocery stores. Every day is not my day off, Chris. You went to two grocery stores on the opposite side of town. That's what TJ thinks is fun. Dude, we're in the middle of a quarantine. And you have to keep them spicy. You have to do stuff that's different. So the only thing that I'm interested in is eating for sport, apparently. So that's the type of stuff that I want to do. I mean, you go to Erewhon and you sit there and eat like a tired bowl of buffalo cauliflower and a fucking bean salad that costs $89. It's $15. Jesus Christ. And then I go to... And I go cop some excellent arugula for $4 that's made from a farm that I know the guy from. Make a delicious vinaigrette. I'm eating like a king. That's the way I would prefer to do it. Well, that actually reminds me. What night works for you to have me over for dinner this week? Just let me know. Okay. Maybe. I mean, it could be as early as tomorrow, Chris. Well, I hope you have some vinaigrette left and some arugula because you know I love a spicy green. I got you, bro. Yeah, we'll have to talk offline about that. But, yeah, it was weird going to that part of L.A. I haven't really hung out in, like, the Brentwood area, Palisades area in a while. It just doesn't even – it felt like Glendale-by-the-Sea in a way because some of the area is very, very, very nice. Crazy-ass houses, beautiful, wild mansions. But a lot of it was just kind of like regular single-family homes, you know? I haven't been – I hadn't been to the Palisades in years and years until I went like a couple weeks ago. And I liked it. Since your coat guy died, you haven't been there in a while. Exactly, exactly. I don't – Rest in peace, Big Steve. Sorry, bro. I also don't need to go there ever again. Nobody does.

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It's nice. I can't explain it. But it's a lot of, at least when we were there, it was like a Sunday afternoon, it was like a lot of teenage girls. It felt like you were at a mall because it is a mall, which you forget because you're outside and it's so nice. Yeah, the whole city is a mall, but it has like a Martha's Vineyard, like Hamptons kind of energy, but Cali style in a way where all the stores offer useless junk that you... just buy to pass the time and then talk to your friends about when you have wine and stuff like a new, I got this new, like mantle piece made out of a shell type shit, you know? Yeah. Well, I probably, I mean, you fit in well there as a Tesla person. You know what I mean? It feels like the whole thing is very Tesla energy. I was hoping for, I would have really liked to have like a vintage Ford Bronco where I could really have the tank top and a leg hanging out the side. And really just throwing some revs to the hotties at the red lights. It is really weird down there though. It feels like, it just feels like time doesn't move. I can't explain it. It's like a true netherworld of like, I guess everybody's rich and like relatively good looking and like you're just buying stuff. I mean, they're wearing masks. Life is very easy over there. And it is. I mean, we hung out there for a half an hour and that's all we needed. But those are the types of things that you have to do in the COVID to just break up the monotony of your everyday life. You're right. Some of us work. Some of us get better at athletic pursuits. And some of us drive to a grocery store. Everybody's different. You know, and I get that. I really understand that. And that's something that COVID has opened my eyes to is just the differences. So you think the only thing that I did yesterday was drive to a grocery store, you little fucking piece of shit? I would say that's...

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Not the only thing you did because you might have showered. That was my hero activation for the day, though. That was definitely your hero activation for the day. We all have hero activations for the day. My hero activation for the day is usually sports-related, which is also not great. Well, Chris, we all can't talk about or spend hours writing about a good new socks. to buy but you know we're all we're all swimming in our own different sea and we're all on our own journey there are also different um soap that you can buy and that's another thing to work on and write about Jason, being rewarded for my excellent taste that has taken years and years to cultivate is not something to joke about. And, you know, I don't need this fucking podcast. So if you're going to talk to me like that, I can keep it pressing. You know what I mean? So, you know. Oh, there we go. Big CB ain't scared to go to the Bill Burr route and just talk for an hour into the mic. You know what I mean? I think you are, Chris. I am. You're even too scared to do one-on-one pods. You need the bumper bowling or the training wheels of a guest to ask them, you know, take me back to the start. Where did it all? Where did you get the bug? Where did you get the acting bug? So who are your guys? You know, like, who are your guys? Or girls? Or girls. I wonder if Mark Maron has changed that, his classic who are your guys to who are your people. Yeah, I mean, we don't need to. Oh, you went to Idaho? Idaho State? Yeah. I knew it. Yeah, you kind of have that vibe. It's a great vibe. I mean, you have to get to the bottom of people, Jason, which is I think you're more of like a topical guy. Well, I want to know what is going on in the future. What's the next move? I don't need to know who your guys were in 76, and I don't need to know your audition tape story for UCB. Well, that's the problem. First of all, you don't love comedy like I do, which is a huge problem for you. The last cool thing that did happen to me there was...

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I was walking past Sun Life Organics, a smoothie and acai destination that you're very familiar with. The Wolverine is the best smoothie in the world. The Wolverine. And I also recently learned from our friend Jake, only sitting at 200 calories. Is that possible? You know, Jason, I didn't even know that, but isn't that just kismet that that's what I was drawn to based on taste? And then it's also the healthiest. It's uncanny, incredible. 200 calories for a smoothie that contains a nut butter. I almost don't believe it. Jason, this is the problem with you. Your skeptical energy is bringing me down. Chris, you know this about me. I'm a numbers guy, first and foremost. Yeah, you're a real numbers guy. I also am a nut guy. I know that nut butter and calories, those are two peas in a pod. They do. They add up together. I smell a rat there. We'll explore that later. I was walking past Sun Life. meadow soprano none other than posted up feeding her young child a bowl of acai in the palisade sun this is soprano's free podcast please for the love of god can i please this is the one place i go to hide from soprano's content are you really that much of a of a of an anti pranny pranny daddy uh first of all do not call it pranny um no i'm not i just think not for nothing chris but i'd like to know more Please expand. I just can't believe how fetishized it is. It's just, it's so tired. It's exhausting. How many fucking, I mean, you know how angry I am about that stupid James Gandolfini fucking Green Day story. I just, I can't believe that people care this much. This might be how people feel about you. Like, is it safe to say that Sienna Miller is your Sopranos? I don't think. Do you think there's people out there who are like, gosh.

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I really don't need to hear Chris Black talk about Sienna Miller anymore. I'm one person talking about a classic British beauty who will eventually win an Oscar. I'm not the entire world collectively jerking off to a show that came out and ended 20 years ago. It's just why is it happening? What is the anthropological reasons for this to be in the last year and a half, two years? Because the show is hot fire. That's why. I'm not saying the show isn't hot fire. The streaming part of it. And it was what really did it, I think. Once everybody was streaming and they had access to it, then it's kind of, you know, yeah, it's like, why is the White Album or Pet Sounds or whatever still sell, you know, hundreds of thousands of copies every year? Because every year a new generation comes out. And then they listen to it. They watch The Sopranos. And it's just sitting there free on their TV. It's not free. They're paying for it. But what I'm saying is I don't think – Well, their mom pays for it or whatever. That's more accurate. I don't think – The Sopranos is fine. It's totally fine. But I think that it being like – it's the memes and the talk. And I love Michael Imperioli. I want him to get me pregnant. Like, it's just, it's just like, it's like Michael Imperioli goes on some radio show and he likes the Stooges or something. And people are like, can you believe this guy fricking likes my bloody Valentine? It's like, dude, liking good music is not, you should not be rewarded for that. If you're famous, you have nothing but time to research this stuff. You know, I agree with you on the Imperioli. Cause he, they were doing a bunch of podcasts to plug their podcast, him and, um, Him and the other guy, the Bacala. Oh, yeah. They have a podcast. They have a podcast. First of all, don't come for... Again, you guys are rich. You're getting... Don't come for our zone. This is our zone. I don't know if I would call those guys rich. Oh, I bet they're rich. If they had good contracts on residuals, they should be rich. I don't know. I mean, they were supporting roles. I know that they had a failed...

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mozzarella company or like a marinara sauce that didn't go well no they like they really did have a sauce business that went out of business i don't i don't think that's what i mean that that we can't reward that kind of behavior like we cannot reward that but i was listening to them and they're just like you they they what do you do when you're that situation because you're this beloved character they're like oh he's kind of hot whatever he likes listening to 90s music like luna or my bloody valentine or something and you you idolize these people and these characters and then when you hear them talk they're often like kind of problematic and they're like you know not all cops are bad cops like they're like go on podcasts and say shit like that and nobody told them like hey guys like just don't you know no dude he sounds like a fucking guy that works at a record store in new jersey Like, I can't get excited about this. He's a real thespian. I'm so tired of it. I'm so tired of it. But I guess people could say the same thing about Sex and the City, but that's a show that I like more. No, no, no, no, no. So I give it a pass. But also, I think that they aren't out, like, there's not so many auxiliary cast members to embarrass themselves on the internet the way that, you know, Sex and the City is for people, basically. Do you, I mean, it's a shame that Gandolfini passed away, of course, but if he was still alive now. I think it could arguably be even worse. Oh, it would be terrible. I think the fact that he is no longer with us, you know, God rest his soul, is keeping the fanfare and the annoyance down a little bit just out of respect to the dead. I mean, that story, I also Stereogum post about that Green Day story, and I responded to their posts like, please stop talking about this non-story, and people went crazy on me. What is the story really quick? The story is that he liked Green Day. He listened to Dookie. This is really something. It has been a six-day news cycle of people talking about him listening to Dookie in his trailer on vinyl. And you know who's responsible for this fucking story? Michael Imperioli. And so like him on his podcast or something was talking about, back in the day, Jim, I'd pop into his trailer and, you know.

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you know not for nothing but he'd be blasting dookie on vinyl and you know he had it on on green vinyl but that's what i'm saying it's like wait guys like liking green day is not cool liking vinyl is really not cool so you're here but because this famous actor that you like from a tv show liked it it's cool that's not how this works like it's not cool it is not cool it is not cool at all and and i'm sure gandolfini probably would like to be remembered for listening to better music than Dookie. Dookie was a fine record when it came out when I was a youngster and being fucking 13 years old and listening to Green Day hits different than being a full grown ass man. Maybe Jason, just putting this out there, maybe Jim wants to be remembered as an actor. You know what I mean? Maybe he doesn't want to be remembered for having bad taste in music or taste in music at all. Why do we need to see – basically anytime you pull the curtain back on any one of these people, they're fucking lame. I'd rather not know. I would rather not know. Well, I think the problem is the way that news happens nowadays is we're just absorbing items that we can discuss at our next natural wine mixer or the next time we're just hanging out with somebody. We have nothing to talk about. That is something – if you're a lay person. is is is noteworthy and newsworthy and you can potentially mine you know five minutes of of conversation out of talking about that versus you know hey wasn't Gandolfini a good actor on this episode or whatever exactly like there's real news today like Andy Bell the member of Ride and former member of Oasis put out a solo song see that's good information that's that's news that we can really sink our teeth into that's news that Chris and four other people somewhere in scotland are really really really interested in i look i understand that that that you know what i like is is is not for everybody but i mean truly that that

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Exactly. That Gandolfini thing is absolutely insane. The Green Day thing, it's absolutely insane. It's gone on for five days and multiple websites are posting about it. And there's nothing about it that is interesting or cool at all. So the whole story is that he used to listen to Green Day, Dookie on vinyl in his trailer while they were filming The Sopranos. I guess. Yeah, I guess. And then Imperioli ratted him out. Yes, yes. Not to use a colloquialism from their mafioso background, but he dimed a dead man out for playing Dookie. Also, though, America's obsession with mafia culture is, I mean, that's a deeper thing to unpack, but I don't really get the romanticism of that whole thing, too. Actually, I was listening to Neil Brennan's podcast, and he was talking about that. He was saying that mafia culture is basically like... black hip-hop culture for for white people who don't want to like be interested in black gangster culture damn that's actually an interesting take on that that's an interesting take i mean people really are they'd be loving i mean you know what what's not to love you you get to lead lead a life of crime a glamorous existence for all the all the pros and the cons you get to kill people prostitution i have no I like have no interest in it at all. Like all those movies, it's like, it's all fine to me, but I can't like, I'm not getting a chub for Goodfellas three. I'm just, I just don't care. Like I would rather watch like, you know, West wing or something to me is more interesting. We know. more nuanced and also based in like some sort of reality i would rather read a a smart article in the new yorker than than uh watch some of that dumb dumb stuff i don't but i don't think it's dumb dumb that's not what i'm saying i think it's like i mean those movies and these shows are absolutely classic like hang the jersey in the hall of fame i just think that the the romanticism of mafia stuff is

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A deeper thing that should be explored in this country versus just... I like movies where they sell coke and kill each other. TJ on his little Ebert. My version of Sopranos for you is probably Friends, the television show. I mean, I hate that too. That is one where it's just like... I it's just so bad and so dumb and I get really mad when every single person is obsessed with it but I think friends I think friends being so dumb I think it like encapsulates that time period kind of well Like it was such a very different time in this country where like no one had a care in the world. You know what I mean? And it kind of feels like that. And I think that the reason young people – but it's the same issue, Jason. It's like it went on Netflix and it became a thing. There wasn't Friends parody t-shirts and Urban Outfitters until it hit Netflix. Big Netflix is always the problem is the point. But I think that young people look at that as like – um so it's such a it's so different to them it's like something to like pine for almost like this like no care in the world i just hang out with my friends and have these misadventures every day in a giant apartment in the west village you know it's like it's it's so not based in reality but it looks like you know they made it look and and seem as real as they could um but i do think it's it's like the the the uh you know The harshness of the world had not set in yet. So I think if you're 22 and you put down the Billie Eilish suicide music for an hour and pick up some friends, it's an escape. You know what I mean? It's like an escape for you the way that maybe The Sopranos is for adults. Yeah, I think people and then maybe people our age like to put it on and just – I know a lot of people that like to just put it on and have it on in the background, just playing, just a loop of friends always playing.

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as like a weird comforting thing have you ever do you know people like that i know people that do stuff like that i i have a it seems really dark like like you can't just be with your own thoughts or alone i don't turn the tv on until after like until after dinner time after the sun is down yeah i think watching tv in the middle of the day as a person who works themselves that's the kiss of death it is the kiss of death Because as soon as you fire up that Bravo at 2 p.m., then taking that Xanax might not be such a bad idea. You know where my head's going, TJ. We're eating chips. We're snacking. We're snacking. We're snorting. Who knows? It's truly a myriad of issues that could arise. How long gone pro tip number 5,863? Never watch TV in the daytime. What about on a Sunday, though? I honestly don't, I'm not, now I have a giant TV in this room and I have, I've watched a little, I've watched a little bit of basketball to try to understand why people care about it. And that's kind of it. And I've watched some, some, you know, I've, I've plugged in, you know, actually this is really funny. I was setting up the Apple TV in the hotel room and like logging into trying to log into my account. And the previous person that stayed in this room. their email address came up and it's somebody I know. Isn't that crazy? The elite Illuminati world is a small world, isn't it? It's a small world, but I was like, damn, I know this motherfucker. That's really funny. And then I texted and figured out, you know, they'd stayed here while they were renovating their house, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, it was a funny twist. But have you tried to watch this NBA bubble stuff? No, not at all. It's actually... It's insane how stupid the fake digital fans are. And I don't know why they don't just get rid of it and let these guys play basketball. I really don't. It's really strange. So they will kind of just take the Tupac hologram version of a fan at home watching it.

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I believe – no, no, no, no, no. You pay to have like your seat – to be in a seat is what I understand. So there's some sort of digital version of you sitting in a seat that you're paying for. But is it a live feed or is it just like a static image? I believe it's a static image. Yeah, I guess you couldn't do a live feed because then you can be doing something offensive or illegal. Yes, exactly. So I believe this is a money-making venture is part of it and also like fan participation. But I just don't. It kind of has cameo energy. Somebody who would pay money to have a picture of themselves in the back stands of a game. I don't know. I just tried it because everybody was talking about it, but I'm good on that. Well, I mean, I meant more so the cameo in that it seems like a great gift to give somebody. To buy them a seat at a game and then take like a very embarrassing or terrible photo of that person. Maybe the photo had been photoshopped into a less than enjoyable situation for the person. I feel like you're getting some ideas about something due to me. And I don't love it. I'm a member of the Adobe Creative Cloud suite and I have the technology. As you know, I wield the power to put you in the most unsavory of uniforms, outfits, and predicaments. You did bless me, though, last week with the extremely timely where you put me in Jake Paul's pool with the sniper rifle laying against it. And for that, I thank you. That did very well for me. That was very timely and very funny. And I love when you guys are able to whip that stuff together. Your content team can come through. Well, that, yes, the, the, the chat that we have with, uh, Yimithi Yayo and, and David Cho, it's, it's more of a workshop, um, where, where I'm able to send images in and within minutes, someone has, has done what I asked. It's actually, it's magic. It's like a free assistant. Yeah. We're, we're your hype team and we are, our hype house is merely a chat and three guys that are, two of them are playing video games and, and have Photoshop open in the other window.

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Your funny gift, if it pleases the Lord. Exactly. And then we present it to you, and then you just put it out into the world, and we don't get any credit, and that's fine. I mean, that's not how this works, Jason. When I go out on stage every night with my late-night show and do a monologue, do I have to do my credit? What is it, Squirrel? Do I have to credit every joke? Damn, I forgot about Squirrel already. The news cycle moves fast. You, in your wonderful house that you're staying at, your villa, I should say. It's not a villa. It's merely a room, but thank you. Your room in the villa, small room. Tiny. You said you have Peloton. How are you liking the Peloton? We need the Peloton review. Well, I mean, I, you know, I've made fun of Peloton because it, you know, at first glance. What's not to make fun of? It's a fat, rich guy's clothes hanger for his fourth bedroom, as I said in the newsletter. But it's just like any other group fitness thing. The instructors are insufferably corny. The workout is good. Are they hot, though? Not even that hot. They're fine. Not your style. But I do think the – I've done it twice now. I've done a 45-minute. It followed by a 10-minute arm session and a 30-minute hit followed by a 10-minute arm session. And I'm fucking drenched with sweat, which is really all you want out of that. But the calorie burn is not it. Compared to running, it's half if not less. And if I'm going to expend any effort, I want the most calories lost possible. What is your calorie goal for every day? I don't know. I don't do that. But when I run, it's looking like between 1,000 and 1,200. And then if there's tennis on top of that, it's probably another 800 to 1,000. I don't know, bro. That's good. The thing about the Peloton that I do understand now and why it's popular, I think, is there's data that's pretty real and there's also a leaderboard, which I think that level of like...

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Even just light competition can keep people engaged and make it worth spending. Also, I don't think the price is that crazy for what it is after using it. And the leaderboard is for everybody in the world, right? Not just... Yeah. I mean, I haven't done a live class. That seems a bit much. But the music, dude, these guys, why can't anyone play good music? It's fucking crazy. Well, let's have a meeting with Peloton. I represent... DJ Vim Jeans, he's looking to make some mixes for these Peloton hit sessions. Yeah, I'm looking to musically supervise and curate some Peloton classes. Sir, we can't, no, no, there can't be a 45-minute burial ride. That's not going to work. Dude, I mean, it could work. Okay, I think that's actually a good task for you, is you create a 45-minute burial playlist for exercise, and let's see if it can keep the heart rate up. Yeah, some people are like, we're doing hill climbs today. We're getting out of the saddle. And then today I'm like, we're riding down a rainy hill just trying to hold on for one more day. What is the opposite of Cape but running up that hill? We're running down that hill into the valley. Yeah, we're riding down that soggy hill thanks to our friend, Beryl. But I did, I have to say, I like it. I don't see the point in buying one, and I don't think it's... If I'm going to do a group exercise, I would rather it be obviously the real thing. I couldn't see myself using it every day, but on a light day or like a recovery day, it's a very nice thing to have. Isn't it funny that some people consider their Peloton day to be like, oh, I really don't want to do this. I'm dreading it. And then for you, an elite athlete, that's what you might consider doing on a recovery day. Not recovery day, but Sundays I try to keep it pretty light. So I'll either play tennis, but now the Peloton is a nice addition to that. Also, it's easy to use. The interface is good. I totally understand why. I still think it's a little bit much, but I do think that for some people...

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like spending money and like convenience really pushes them to, to get fit. And I, and I don't suffer from that. I have other issues like body dysmorphia. People really love throwing money at whatever the problem is, you know? But I think it does work. Like I think if, if, if, especially during quarantine, if you have five months where you have more free time and you have this thing in your house, there's like no excuse. And you're like, I spent, I spent two grand and I waited, you know, it's a, it was a wait list. Like it'll probably work. Yeah. I just want there to be a Peloton for people like us. What do you mean? Real athletes? Just cool elite people who demand better aesthetics, better music, cooler looking instructors, better outfits. The I just we should have we should I should try to get us a we should try to get a fitness instructor on this podcast to explain to us why the music is so bad. Because this part of me is like not hard to figure out why. No, but it's but I even I had a great SoulCycle teacher for years who played really, really good music. And it was like the only guy at this guy, Parker, he's the only person I've ever met. And he ended up becoming like a DJ because he had such good taste and like it actually worked out for him in some regard. But. I feel like – Oh, I'm familiar with DJ Parker. Don't worry. The customer doesn't want it to be cool. And I feel like maybe there's like a BPM issue. I don't – I think that part of it I'm not fully – I don't think it has anything to do with them wanting to be cool or even knowing. It's just – I'm sure there are some personal trainer, crazy fitness freaks out there who have really good taste in music. The majority of these people are dorks is the problem, and they don't have good taste in music. That's just what it is. We got to get rid of all dorks. No, no, no, no. We need the dorks. For what? Dorks make us look cooler by comparison and contrast, and dorks are what pays for all of this. You're right. If we didn't have dorks, we wouldn't have Clubhouse. We wouldn't have Discord. We wouldn't have Failing Fits podcast. There's a lot of things we wouldn't have if dorks didn't exist.

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You're goddamn right. Yeah, sorry, Clubhouse. We're going to join and participate. No, I'll try anything. It can't be any better or worse than Facebook, so I'll give it a shot. It's going to be better than Facebook. I'm just kidding. Travel question for you. Hit me, baby. I just got hit up with an email reminder letting me know that my TSA pre-check is going to expire. Do I even bother renewing it? What do you think? Yeah, you have to. Don't be a loser. It's also like $50. You have to hope for a better future. Barack Obama voice. Shepard Fairey poster voice. I really don't know the next time I'm going to use my TSA pre-check. During times of COVID, does pre-check even exist anymore? Does everybody have to go through? all the same crazy procedures. Yeah, no, don't worry. As a pre-check Hive member, it does still work. And I have flown. It's still, okay, good. Yes, no, don't worry. The airport and the airlines, no matter how much they're failing, they will still tear things out so that people can feel special for paying more money to skip lines. Even in a life or death emergency, your status will play. Oh, Mr. Black, you're a super spreader? Well, you can still come into the lounge. You are a Platinum American Express holder. So please, please come with us. I would renew it. I just can't wait till we're back in the air. You know what I'm saying, Jason? Can you even imagine a future where you and I are hopping on the plane to go do a How Long Gone tour sponsored by who knows? Sponsored by Telfar? Sponsored by, yes, yes. Look under your seats. There's a Telfar mini bag. Z-Way is opening for us somehow. Yeah, it's a how long gone tour. There's a giant list of important presenting sponsors. We'll do two hour meet and greets after with all our fans that pay extra. Of course, we won't make eye contact. You won't be allowed to touch us and we won't take the photo. Our security guard will. It's I mean, that is why, Jason, the hope of that future is why you must must renew your. OK, I must renew and you must.

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stop spreading so superbly so we can get back onto that track. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Jason. Well, when you were spreading at Air One yesterday, you weren't thinking about me. So something to consider. I think we will get on that track and I don't see why we couldn't be doing at least arenas and then stadiums 2022. I don't see why. I mean, with the new album coming out and just kind of like where we're at right now, how much work we've put in, our relationships with Apple and Spotify, obviously, and all the digital streaming services. I don't see why we couldn't be selling packages upwards of $1,000 that include the meet and greet and maybe some merch. I think that's a good idea. It's kind of like how restaurants are selling gift cards right now. Exactly. People will want to give. and spend their dollars with us knowing that safely once things are back to normal, we will take their full money and not really provide them with much for it. Yes, exactly. Because podcast is the opposite of that. We provide a lot and get very little in return. So the live event has to flip-flop so that we can actually eat and buy stuff. Big ticket price, big letdown, evens out. Exactly, exactly. We don't deliver, but we still want you to come. Okay. All right, Chris. That's it. Wow. Wow. Okay. Thank you, King. Thank you. I was getting vintage How Long Gone vibes of talking about like, when do you think this is all going to be over? When we first started the show. You know, the show hasn't existed for very long, but it truly seems like an eternity. For better or for worse. So, yeah, it's only been around for, I guess, four months or so, quarter of a year. We're coming up on an important milestone episode. 69? 69. Yeah, because it's going to go, it goes 50, 69, 100, 1,000.

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Those are the milestones that I recognize. Yeah, I've noticed that people nowadays are way, way more interested in the 69th version of something versus the 100th. When did 69 become a more sought-after milestone than 100? When society got dumber. But what was the year, do you think? I'm thinking like 2004. 14 15 maybe yeah definitely it's it's very much a symptom of the internet so definitely i would say that time range feels right to me god damn it jason we're fucked man look renew renew your tsa don't ever talk about the sopranos and go to air one more often that's the let me sum the show up for you just you could fast forward to this part and listen and then just that's it yeah i mean i like it it's very much just like hey The definition of a crazy person is someone who does the same thing over and over again and expects different results. I'm doing the exact opposite results of what I was doing. No more Sopranes. No more Erewhon abolishment. We're replacing everyone at Bon Appetit with whatever the opposite of all the white people that were there before. We're throwing everything out and starting anew. History has progressed past the need for Bon Appetit. That's my take on that. I agree. And on that note. Fuck Bon Appetit. Dumbass. Fuck Bon Appetit. None of my homies rock with Bon Appetit. I guess that's it. I'll talk to you. I'll talk to you later. If you want to learn how to cook food, just send me a DM on Instagram with a picture of what your fucking onions look like and I'll tell you what to make. That's right. Jason's offering bespoke services. This shit does cost though. Hit my pillow, my, my, my Patreon. Do not hit his Patreon. All right. Bye guys.

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