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Hello! Good morning, Chris. Well, TJ, you know, physically it feels like the afternoon to me. But I know, you know, legally it's morning. Legally speaking, you don't want to get in trouble. I would hate to get in trouble with the feds. So it feels like the afternoon because you've just been up killing it all day? Deadass, bro. I mean, your boy's a little wrecked. I'm feeling a little weak. I'm feeling destroyed from yesterday, to be honest. Yeah, I feel fucked up. I mean, like, I don't know, man. Maybe we're pushing ourselves too hard physically. I think, I don't, I mean, that is possible. I think the heat comes into play a lot for how I'm feeling. But whenever I feel this way where I'm just like, just destroyed, you know, like I don't have anything specific. that's going wrong like i don't have like oh my knee hurts or i pulled my groin or my shoulders give me it's just like general overall you just kind of feel shell shocked yes like even your your skin feels tighter you feel dehydrated well i pay extra money for my skin to feel tighter gotta go see a guy in beverly hills for that i go au natural so it's it's different but yeah i mean i woke up just like I slept an hour late than I normally do. I was off the CBD, actually, though. I slept an hour later than I usually do, too. Natural. Wow. Then maybe it wasn't the CBD. Who knows? But I drank two full Gatorades yesterday. Bro, that Gatorade. So, guys, for the listeners at home, we played two hours of tennis at 3 p.m. yesterday in L.A., which was stupid as fuck. It was like [redacted address]. But afterwards, I don't know what got into us, but TJ and I had to hit the local 7-Eleven and get some motherfucking Gatorade like it was 1997. And the cooler part was we didn't say, like, all right, let's go meet at this 7-Eleven, follow me there, and then we'll go cop. I was there in line ordering.

And then, lo and behold, who walks in, it's your dumbass to buy your own independent bottle of Gatorade. That's when I knew it was serious. We got the zero sugar, at least. So we weren't going too brazy. But, Dan, the Gatorade was quenching, bro. We got GZero. It felt different, didn't it, going down that tight little throat of yours? Honestly, it was so good. I feel like something hasn't been that satisfying in a long time. It was crazy. A bigger issue is the way that you're talking about this, this sugar-free sports drink that many people would consider to be an ill-tasting medicine that you drink purely for function and not for flavor. You're discussing it like it's a tub of Haagen-Dazs or like... You know, a piece of blueberry cheesecake of just like, I just had to do it. And people are like, y'all drink that medicine stuff? That's fucking gay, man. First of all, first of all, it's not, no one thinks it's medicine tasting. A lot of people in the world would consider. Gatorade is known to taste good. It does. I mean, I'm just more talking about like in the grand scheme of beverages that when you walk into 7-Eleven or whatever, your bodega. There's like all the shit. And then the sports drink section is sort of like stuff that you are drinking for a function. And sure, it does taste good, but it's not like an Arizona iced tea or, you know, just a Coca-Cola or a Snapple or. Damn, when's the last time Big TJ had an ice cold Coca-Cola on actual ice? I actually have been having. Cracking. I've been cracking a few sneaky. full fat cokes over the last quarantine i will be honest damn so are you copying a single at the store and just letting it rock yeah i will i will it's only the the mexican coke in the bottle with made with pure sugar real that real shit no no corn syrup and i will i will have that be a treat you know after a hot hard day of killing it on doing my yard work and chores i will

you know, make a thoughtful and tasteful meal for my partner and I, and then pop that fucking full fat cookie poured into some glass full of subzero brand ice cubes. And they just clink into that Ikea glass and brother blink. And you'll miss it. Cause that cook is gone in about 60 seconds, brother. I figured you had some whiskey guy ice cubes that you used for Coca-Cola. You know what I mean? Whiskey guy ice cubes? I know what you mean. As a home barista and home mixologist, I just assume that you have all the tools you need to give yourself a professional treatment that you deserve. Yeah, I mean, you draw the line somewhere, I say. And making my own ice cubes out of something for later. That's a bridge too far, even for my dumbass. But I do like the idea of making ice cubes made out of coffee to then pour into your iced coffee so your iced coffee never has a delusion going on. I was talking about that the other day. I can't remember who does that still. Somebody was talking about a coffee shop that still does those. Oh, coffee, coffee, yeah, this place, the Garfield logo. Oh, yeah. Does it cost extra to get? Ice cubes made out of coffee in your iced coffee? Damn, I don't know. Or is that just a service that is complimentary on the house? I would imagine they probably bump up the price a little bit and factor it in so you don't feel like you're paying more, but you actually are. That's my kind of economics, mate. Fucking big restaurant, big coffee coming into our pockets again. It's a tiny failing local coffee shop that's just barely keeping the doors open. furloughing their third employee out of four whatever they shouldn't have bought the big machine you know like they should have gotten us that's the problem with these goddamn fourth wave coffee shops they buy they take all their money and they buy this big fucking machine where you could have just bought a fucking e-class and be done with it but you got exactly 60 racks on some shit and then you got to pay the guy to draw flames on it

I mean, if I had a coffee shop, I would definitely be getting the espresso machine powder-coated matte black. You know what I'm saying? Especially in LA. Matte black? Yeah, to match the range. You know what I mean? You want the triple black, murdered-out fucking G-Wagon of espresso machines? Yeah, and we could play Kanye West over the loudspeaker. If you wear a Chrome Hearts trucker, you get 10% off at checkout. You have been spending... Way too much time in West Hollywood, bro. This is a good business idea. I don't think this is cool. Oh, okay. You're willing to separate your cool morals and the code of ethics that you operate on in exchange for making a quick buck. Reaching into the pockets of one of the Amiri pockets of one of your fucking former promoter bros and getting a little extra coin out of him. something i could be proud of bro none of my former promoter bros can afford uh fourth wave coffee right now don't worry damn they're doing the they're doing the jared the the the salts fucking big gulp 7-eleven coffees yeah shit you know what i'm saying 2012 was different but now i mean yeah you know a lot of my revenue streams have been kind of shut off due to covid um Do you think they had to go back from the G-Wagon to the Scion? Or do you think they were able to maintain at least the whip? No, I think they had to go from Uber to Uber Pool. Damn, nah. Uber Pool, bro. Uber Pool is COVID. That's crazy. Uber Pool is just done now, right? You have to be... You have to be very low on funds to have an Uber pool in COVID. I took an Uber pool one time in San Francisco with Amardeep because he's young and thinks that's cool. And we were the only people in it. This was years ago when it was new. And I was like, nah, I ain't with this shit, bro. I ain't ever doing this again. Yeah, I mean, that comes as no surprise that Chris Black was not a fan of Uber pool. At least I tried it.

You were forced into doing it. I'm sure you put up a little fight. I have done that. I wanted to seem cool to my young shooter, you know? Well, I'm sure he was quite impressed by your ability to sit in the back of an air-conditioned car for [redacted address] to go get sushi. We were going to Equinox, actually, but thank you. Fuck, are you serious? Yeah, we were trying to go. There's an Equinox in San Francisco that has a basketball court. We were trying to go there. Trying to go find a little pickup? Trying to get a little hoop on it. Well, Mardeep can actually play basketball. He humored me and played with me for a while until I realized I was too old and I needed to switch sports. What position do you normally play? I'm a center, obviously. I don't know, bitch. You don't know? Don't act like you know about basketball. Your ass don't know shit. Just because you're tall, you don't know shit. Look, I am no expert. I am no Stephen A. Smith, but I know that there is a position on the court called center. I don't know. I honestly don't know. I would just play whatever. Like LeBron and Michael Jordan, they're like power forwards, right? So that, yeah, that's probably what I am. But you're just more of like a forward, I guess. Like a less powerful forward. I was about to say, I don't know why you would leave the word power out. Because I think if we're looking at this podcast, I'm the LeBron and the Jordan. Look, I've seen... the physique of LeBron James and Michael Jordan on recent documentaries. And to quote Chris Black, player is not the same. Player one is not the same. First of all, Michael Jordan never looked that good. LeBron, I see the similarities. And if you don't, you need to take off your hater bloggers. Did you watch the Michael Jordan documentary? I watched like a few episodes. I honestly, there's like video and footage from that of him training where his, his body is like a fucking gazelle, man. He was at the time. Oh, for sure. Oh yeah. In his prime. Of course. Yeah. I'm not talking about right now as he's like a career alcoholic and 60 years old. That's see. Now that's why, that's why I'm, you're like current day, Michael Jordan. And I'm like current day LeBron. That's how I would, that's how I would.

I'm George Clooney, you're Randy Gerber, and I think that's another comparison we can make. I think that does make a lot of sense. You're trading in, I guess, physical appearance in exchange for just having a more fun, enjoyable life. I think MJ now, he's out here putting in work. He's just texting his bros, having sex with prostitutes, and betting. hundreds of millions of dollars on just, like, lacrosse games in Korea or something right now. And it doesn't matter because, you know, Nike sends him a new check for $100 million every weekend. That does sound like... My bro is smoking only Cubans. Only Cubans. Big Cubans smoking big Cubans. He's doing marlin fishing in the Keys, probably. This actually does sound very TJ appealing. Like, this sounds like something you'd want to do. retire with hundreds of millions of dollars i'm more of a lebron see i'm more of a workhorse like a community leader and i look excellent tom brown and i look i look great in tom brown shorts just like lebron wow so the similar the similarities are i see where this is and i'm not mad at this comparison um i can't wait to talk to our guest today who who you you go pretty far back with her right yeah millie de tirico and i have been friends since i was probably 20 years old Um, she knows the real me. I'm sure she can, she regale us with some classic Chris stories, but, um, she, she came on public announcement like back in the day, early on. Um, she was the host of like the, like legendary college radio station in Atlanta. Uh, she had a great show that put me on to like, you know, she would play like the Smiths on the radio and shit. Uh, and she's also exactly a program manager. We have K rock here in LA. I understand. At Turner Classic Movies, so she's like a real film head, like really knows her shit. Yeah, so she currently works for Turner Classic Movies programming the films that they play on that motherfucking network. Exactly, baby. But TBS Hive, you already know Atlanta, Georgia stand-up. You know what I'm saying? Stank on your West End. Wow, cold brew kicking today, I see.

I haven't even had the Taika. Actually, you know what? Let me crack a fresh Taika before we get into this so I can really be flying. You know what I'm saying? Damn. Your adaptogens are going to be fucking off the roof. Chris, all right. Let's give her a call. All right. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter, more breathable. And they're just easy, but, you know, still put together. I don't want to look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. You know, they focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons. Well-made basics, but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated. but still effortless. Yeah, Chris, linen season is here. I wore a linen blazer to dinner a few nights ago in the warm California sun. But, you know, you got that Italy trip coming up this summer and quality European linen pants and shirts. Upgrade that look starting at just $34. You know, if you get a nice linen suit, a little t-shirt underneath it, some chill shoes, you're looking good, but you're staying cool. The inside of your special areas are nice and dry as you turn up with your besties. So elevate that summer wardrobe. Go to quince.com slash how long for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, even on a nice holiday now available in Canada. That is Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince punto com slash how long. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot. Because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need a fucking something put together? A cabinet? Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf? TaskRabbit. Anything you need, TaskRabbit can take care of it for you. And I mean, it...

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I drove from New York to Atlanta a while ago, like a month and a half ago or something at this point. So let's give a, we need a scene report of the middle of America. Like what's, what is the vibe out there? I got to tell you, like, so I drove, I did the Southern route. So I went. through texas you know like you took the confederacy route you took the confederacy slow roll from california i see where your allegiances lie carry on yeah yeah yeah well uh you know when i drove from atlanta to la last time i did the 40 which is like you know the northern route so i decided to go the southern route this time i swear to god it was actually pretty okay like i was a lot i was really like surprised to see the masks out Even in Texas, where I had always heard that Texas is a little dicey. We've also heard that. We've also heard that for our entire lives for any reason. All that shit went away literally the minute I pulled into Florida. Now, Florida is wild. There is little to no mask wearing pretty much everywhere. If you go to a Publix... For something, they'll make you wear masks. But for the most part, gas stations, Dunkin' Donuts, wherever the fuck, those people, no masks. The Dunkers are not masked up. Somehow not surprised. Okay, so the trip alone was fairly uneventful. Nothing to report. Nothing of note. No, I mean, you know, it's like with everything closed, there's really nothing to do. So you just drive. You basically drive, stay in a hotel, drive, stay in a hotel. So no hitchhikers picked up or anything like that? No, not for me. I feel like it's probably a dark time for the hitchhiking community. This probably isn't the best. This isn't their best time. It's been a tough summer for Hitchhive. Exactly. Time is having a hard time. What did you do? What was your entertainment? Obviously, besides listening to every episode of this podcast, what were we able to do with all this time alone? Well, you know, I decided to get two books on Audible. So I got the Mary Trump book that everybody's been talking about. And then I...

I got the Andre Leon Talley book, which I haven't completely finished yet. Two hits from two different categories. Oh yeah. Give us the Millie review of the Mary Trump book. Cause I'm definitely not going to read it. You know, it's like, to me, I thought it was going to be a little bit more salacious than it actually was. I mean, it's basically just sort of like fucked up rich white people. And you know, it's like generation. Wait, hold on. Maybe, hold on. Maybe I will read it now. You rang. You'll be triggered if you had like a hard-ass dad who like really put the fucking screws on you. That's kind of like what this, you know, their dad. Trump had a dad. Must be nice. Fred. Fred Trump. Known millionaire. Known millionaire. I didn't. Those books, stuff like that is never salacious enough for me. I feel like it's always kind of like, that's even how the Epstein doc was. I was like, oh, we already knew all this stuff. It's disturbing, but it's not new and it's not exciting enough because it's the same shit you've already read or heard somewhere else. The tea is not hot enough for Chris. Exactly. I want to burn my mouth. Or it's not hot enough for America, I'll say it. Yeah, it's not. I wonder, did that book do well or is she just going to die in advance? You know, I have no idea, honestly. I mean, it was just the kind of thing where I think everybody was interested because she's sort of like a clinical psychologist, PhD. But it's also like a confirmation of anything that you've already know, which is that Trump is a psychopath or whatever. It's like, oh, here's somebody from his family who is trained to tell you that, telling you that, but that's really it. I also think that Donald Trump is bad. Yeah, exactly. We all agree. And I don't need to pay $24 for that. I think that book was pirated more than M&M CDs in the mom PDF community. I feel like every aunt had that PDF file ready to go. Do you think your mom could open a PDF and read it? Mine could. My mom could. Oh, really? I doubt it. I doubt my mom even knows what a PDF is at all. I appreciate that.

I've never used audible. Is this the first time you've used it or have you done it? Do you use it a lot? You know, I dabbled in it like a while ago. Cause I just was like, I do the thing. I'm a very big person that does the like free trial to get a thing and then cancels it. Like that's what I do all the time when I want to watch something on like. amazon prime or something and i'm like oh i want to watch this but i have to subscribe to this like wow as a member as a member of the hollywood community i'm disturbed to hear that you're you're taking from the hand that feeds like that yeah i do the thing where i set the alarm to cancel it the day before i the amount of subscriptions i i'm paying for that i don't use right now it's probably disturbing because i i don't set the alarm that is definitely the issue Yeah, Chris would hate himself. He would not like the Chris that would do something like that. He would much rather pay the $12.99 a month for something that he doesn't even remember what it is. Well, I'm not a big, you know, we've talked about this a lot, though. I'm not a streaming guy. I only have Netflix. Like, that's the only one I pay for, and I barely use it. I guess I have Amazon because I pay for Prime. Yeah, he likes to do kind of more lo-fi. He has an extensive VHS criterion collection, a lot of Laserdisc stuff, you know, stuff from Japan. He's like that. No, I just, do you have cable, don't you? Do you have cable, classic cable? I do. See, real heads, no, real Gen X heads on the side. Fucking elite boomer fucking motherfuckers. Cut the cord, losers. Well, to my credit, I get it for discount because I work for a cable company technically. Wait, they give you a plug on just spectrum in general? You get a discount? Damn. Well, AT&T, because we just merged with AT&T. AT&T hooks it up. They give you discounts on cable and phone and all that shit. So I have cheap cable. That's actually pretty cool. I guess that makes sense, but I'm surprised. I don't know. This is how the rich stay rich. Exactly. It's how the rich stay rich. That's right. Some Turner nepotism happening. I didn't know Turner merged with AT&T.

Yeah, so basically Warner, like Time Warner merged with AT&T. Okay, okay, okay. So Turner was like one of the smaller companies within Time Warner. So now, I mean, basically the Turner name is pretty much gone. There's like no more Turner as a brand identity anymore. You're canceled, sis. That's right. Yeah, I mean, it's true. I mean, it's funny because I haven't lived. I mean, I obviously used to live in Atlanta where the brand is a lot stronger. Very strong. Yeah, for sure. Turner created Atlanta for the most part or, you know, helped bring it up. But, you know, when you go out to L.A., people say, you know, you say, oh, I worked at Turner. They're like, what are you talking about? So it doesn't really mean a lot. The disrespect in this fucking town. I tell you what. Are you in LA right now, by the way? You just drove from... Oh, yeah. You think I look like this in New York? I'd be stressed out. I don't know. I'd be stressed out. Drake voice. No, I've been here since July 1st. Oh, sweet. And I'm going to stay until the end of the month is the plan. I mean, I just, you know, there's nowhere to be. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like whatever. And this podcast has really picked up some steam. Uh, so even though we don't do it in the same room, it's nice to be in proximity, you know? Oh, of course, of course, man. Like, and you, and you, you're the kind of person that loves LA, but doesn't want to live there. Right. That's your vibe. Yes. Read him, sis. Yes. I find it. I mean, I'm thriving right now, but I'm also aware that this is fantasy land and like, it's even that is exaggerated because of the current circumstances. You know what I mean? So it's like, So it's hard, but I'm having fun, but I know that it's not real. So I'm trying not to. He misses the gritty realism of the Big Apple, you know? Exactly, TJ. Exactly. Jason knows. You know, places like Times Square and stuff, real heartland of America. Exactly. Oh, yeah. I love Times Square. That's probably my favorite place to eat. That's nice. What did you do for quarantine? You were in L.A. until now, right? Yeah. I mean, I was basically in my apartment in West Hollywood.

for four and a half months alone. Were you serious? I feel like you took it seriously. Yeah. I mean, for the most part, considering that like, you know, I was basically like, I, you know, I have been in the hospital before and I don't want to fucking go back there ever again. So I was like, I like when you talk about hospital, like it's fucking Sam Quentin. You know, I did it. I did a bid. You know what I'm saying? I did a bid. I ain't ever going back. You think. I mean, it was at Cedars, so it was kind of sweet. Flex. Oh, I forgot. You had the amazing... Tell Jason about the Cedars cookie. Oh, shit. This cookie. What the fuck? This is some real L.A. insider shit. I remember you telling me this and it blew my mind. You have to try the cookie at Cedars. It is. I had AIDS and I had the best cookie when I was in treatment at Cedars. That shit is on the internet, dude. If you look up 10 best cookies in LA, the one at Cedars is on the list. I swear to God. Really? And they only serve it if you are staying in the hospital. So you can't walk up to the cafeteria as a guest or whatever. So it's the only cookie that you need health insurance to be able to consume. That's right. And it's one of those cookies. So it's this giant chocolate chip cookie that gets brought to you in a pan. It's like a pan cookie that is in a cast iron thing. Oh, like a Pizuki from BJ's. Yes. You know what time it is. It's legit. I was told to get the cookie before I went to the hospital. I'll put it that way. They're like, if you ever go to Cedars for any reason, get the cookie. Damn. So it's kind of like when you go to a pill mill and you're like. you're like listing your fake symptoms to hopefully get admitted just for the chocolate chip. That's right. Now my leg is definitely broken. I know I can walk, but like, I got to be here for a couple of days at least. Well, as a member of the LA food, food fluencer community, I am shocked and appalled that this has, uh, my radar missed this, this cookie treat. It's an elite club, but you know, it's, it was, it's, it's an amazing cookie. I will say. How are you feeling now? Are you good?

Yeah, man. I mean, I'm good. Like, it's like, I swear to God, like I am that person that had that freak illness, like truly freak illness. Give us a light, give us a light overview. Cause this was like really shocking to me. If you don't mind talking about it. Cause I think, I think people our age need to be aware of this shit a little bit. It can happen, but it's so, you know, it was that kind of thing where like, I, was just living my life. And I had, you know, it was like this, it was the weekend before Thanksgiving, 2018. So I was basically, I went to a wedding. I had some people in town. I was just chilling. Everything was great. Then like the week of Thanksgiving, I basically started feeling like I was coming down with something. And I just thought, oh, I must be tired because I was at a wedding and I went to a bachelor party and I was doing, you know, I had, you know, company stand. So I basically went to Erwan Market and bought a shit ton of juices and soups and shit. I was like, I'm going to kick this thing. The way you pronounce Erwan was exquisite, I will say. You can tell that you're a real country. I pulled up to that goddamn Erwan. I got my elixir. Erwan. no you probably like actually pronounced it correctly phonetically speaking but but yeah real cali heads call it air one air one i'm from georgia you know how i say shit i'm celebrating it yeah sorry so no no so basically i the long story long and short of it is that basically i was feeling like i had the flu i had it for a week couldn't figure couldn't get rid of it i went to like a teledoc he prescribed me some like antiviral shit it wasn't going away and then i was literally like sitting on the couch and i coughed and i felt this pop in my body like in my like abdomen and i was like the most horrible pain i've ever felt in my life and like before this i had never been in the hospital i had never gotten sick never anything i was like pretty much in perfect health

And so I went, I had my friend drive me to Cedars and they basically were like, you're, uh, you had a, a rupture in your abdomen in this like really weird location that was caused by this benign tumor that I had no idea that I had. And essentially I had septic shock because my abdomen was filled with bacteria from this like, it's so crazy. tumor thing and uh and you and you heard and felt that tumor popping yep damn jason see jason if you keep hitting the bong so hard you're gonna cough and look what could happen this is this is what i'm saying bro you don't know you don't know what's going on yeah but it was crazy yeah the amount of chili dogs that i've been eating lately is this is starting to get me a little scared how Now, and this was like an emergency situation. Like you had to, you were like, they were like, you're staying here. This is going to be a whole thing. Oh yeah. I mean, it was the thing where like I was in the emergency room and they sent me to like get a scan and then they came back and was basically like, you're going to surgery like right now. So they had, do they have to like re-stitch up like your intestines and abdomen or what? Oh man. So basically the. Wait, hello? Wait, I think you're on mute. You cut out. Oh, I did? There you go. Okay, I can hear you now. Yeah, I think you're just muted. Okay, let me take these headphones off. All right, so basically, it was hanging out in this part of my abdomen that's connected to my small intestine. Yeah. Cut out a piece of my small intestine because there was just so much bacteria in there from this exploded abscess or whatever. yeah it was rough i had two surgeries i mean i was on a fucking ventilator i mean they were basically like you literally almost died you know like it was by the time that i went to the hospital they were like if you had waited like another day you would have definitely died like oh and this is just you chilling on the couch like all right bro what am i gonna what am i gonna do today i gotta pick up my dry cleaning and then do do everywhere

I was at Barry's boot camp the weekend before. Like I was, it was like, I was on the treadmill over in like, you know, complex over there in Hollywood. And yeah. You and Chris, you would never know by just looking at the two of you on a police lineup, but your similarities are very, very strong. Both from Atlanta, moved to LA. Always at Erewhon, at Barry's. Always have a smart set of frames on your head. I mean, but this, I feel like this was, because I saw you, I guess I came over when you were like recovering, I think. Oh, yeah. That was real early on. Like I had just got out of the hospital when you came over. My dad was there. Yeah, I met your dad. Yeah, your dad was there. Yeah, he like took a walk. He took the dog for a walk, I think, so we could talk. But I mean, I. I just had never, I don't think I'd ever had something that happened to a friend, to be honest with you. Like anything that anybody I know does is self-imposed nine times out of 10. So when it's, when it's actually like a freak, you know, kind of thing, but did it mentally, did you, were you, you seemed pretty good, but I'm sure it got dark. Yeah, man. I mean, like it's, it's like a thing. I mean, I'm not trying to be dramatic because obviously I am, but it like really just changed my life. Like it. Yeah. Like when you went from like, cause I'm 41 years old. So the fact that I had not had any hospital time, no illnesses in 41 years was pretty amazing. I mean, really, you know what I mean? So it was that thing where I was like, well, this shit came out of nowhere again. Like it's just bodies are weird. And I had to keep asking doctors that I was like, all right, like, did I do this? Is it my bad? This is because I used to do this. They're like, no, it's literally like. And you're just going to have to sit with that forever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, yeah, all right, yeah, no, it's not your fault, gotta go. This has nothing to do with all the cocaine you did. It's just one of those fluke things. It's just, I mean, that is hard to hear, I think, because you want to, I mean, I think once something like that happens to you, of course, the goal now is to, so it never happens again. You know, you want to prevent it from ever happening again.

but the doctor is basically telling you like, that's not how this works. You know what I mean? Like you, right. You know? And that was, that was first, first question was, I was like, is this ever going to happen to me again? And they were like, well, no, there's like, let's put it this way. There was a 2% chance of it ever happening the first time. So like, you know, know that, but it was, I mean, it's weird because I technically still have parts of the tumor that are left in my body. So this is why I have to go get, mris at cedars every four months but it's like yeah it's weird it's like a weird feeling to be like this shit just randomly happened there's still part of it that's inside of me even though nothing will happen theoretically but it's like considering that i had never thought about you just when you're young you don't think about health if you're lucky you know yeah for sure oh i mean there's a lot of people who are sick for since their kids or whatever but it's like you know It's weird. It fucks with you on this philosophical, spiritual level. I hate to say it, but I'm like, it's weird. Life is crazy. No, I mean, that's some come to Jesus shit. For lack of a better term, that is literally like, why is this happening to me? And also, I feel like anytime you're forced... I mean, I remember this, Jason, when you broke your ankle that time and you were completely immobile. Obviously, it's two very different things, but it definitely affected your mental state. To just be like at home and kind of not being able to do anything. Because you're just forced to sit with it and think about it. And then I feel like you're just reassessing every decision you've ever made in your entire life. Yeah, yeah. It's basically like being in a sensory deprivation tank for three months. And you're just forced to deal, you know, like you're just so bored and you have nothing to do that you like try to figure your life out just out of sheer entertainment, hopefully. yeah it really makes you think about like i mean i'm gonna stop cheating on my wife you know like all that shit went to my head i mean i don't but now and and you're so your pet your dad came obviously it was like helpful but that was like and then you had some friends and stuff but yeah i mean because as a you know i'm a single woman and i live in la and i had only lived there for a year yeah it was really recent i remember it was like you were still pretty new

And it was like fucking like it was my you know, it's like a single woman's worst case scenario where you get sick and you're alone and you know, whatever. But I the thing that's really like heartwarming and it's like it can really make me emotional sometimes is just like the idea that you all these people came together and helped me out in a way that I like never thought would happen. Like I was like, oh, I just like have acquaintances. I don't really have I have some close friends, but my family's on the East Coast and like. I mean, the, this infrastructure kicked in place that I had never expected, like my coworkers and like my neighbors and like friends, like you came over, like people who like, and that was really like incredible. Cause I was like, Oh, I'm just going to be through this alone. And yeah. But really like my parent, my dad came to live with me for six weeks. He like slept on my couch. You know, I was like, No, that's some wild shit. Like, that's some wild shit. Your dad doesn't really strike me as, like, an L.A. kind of guy. Maybe he was by the time he left. No, listen. He's at Runyon every morning now. He's at Runyon. He's got a screenplay. He's, like, he's moving in. This guy. Have you guys tried this sugar fish? It's freaking delicious. He went on, like, nice sweatpants when he moved. Well, Millie, I think I don't know you very well at all, but you strike me really as one of those types of people who, when something does happen to somebody, you're one of the people to kind of pull together and help and organize it all. So when somebody like you falls ill or sick or needs help, all the people around you will really just kind of pull together in a real surprising way of like, damn, I just feel loved, which is a weird thing to feel sometimes. Yeah, I mean, when you're an independent person, I mean, you have this, like, maybe it's an unconscious tendency, but it's this thing where you're like, I'm good. Like, I got it. I'm that person. All I need is Jesus. Yeah, exactly. It's like, I'm always like, there's two people on the Ikea furniture drawing, and I'm like, fuck that other person. I'll just do this shit. Damn, single girl swag. I mean, I'm kind of the queen. So I was like, yo.

got this shit and then yeah when it's like you are forced to literally like you can't even walk your help completely helpless totally i mean it was a lot because you know i you just like i said like you have this fear of asking because you're like well and then now everybody thinks i'm this person that's got it so they're not going to help but it really people really come in uh and if you're a good person you know you got an infrastructure all the time that you don't even know you have until you know i you were also i feel like you were really into your exercise shit have you been able to get back like i know that was we talked about it a lot you were like yeah this is making me fucking insane that i can't do this because i think it seems like to me you realize that the exercise like the mental part of it was so important too it's rough i mean i'll tell you it's like I'm still not back to 100% because the whole thing is, you know, when you have, like, I had what they called an exploratory laparotomy, which basically means they just cut you down the middle, you know? So I had this whole... open wound surgery that I had to heal from. So, I mean, I remember being in the, the surgical, um, you know, clinic afterwards being like, so when can I go back to soul cycle? And they're like, what are you talking about? Your whole shit is wide open right now. You can't have this because when you have sepsis, like when you're, when you're, when you have sepsis, like you go through so much, like there's antibiotics, like pumping through my body. that they were like, you're going to, it's going to take you six months to even get your energy back, period. And so when I started, you know, I started healing, I was asking the doctors like, okay, like when can I go back to like exercise? And they're like, well, you're definitely not going to be able to lift weights. You might be able to do some like bicycling, but you can't do anything that's going to like, you know.

core work there's no core nothing nothing explosive for you just some mild cardio training yeah and you have and it was dude it's a disappointment i mean it's like you know you've worked up to a certain level of fitness when you do it for a while that when you're like literally can't do shit and you have to start over again i mean that was a fucking bummer i mean it's still a You know, I was working out like three or four days a week and like, you know, I had a personal trainer and I was doing all this stuff. And then it was like, oh, yeah, now I'm a baby again. I got to start over with like baby weights and, you know. Yeah. Yeah. So you're still not 100 percent, but you can do you can do stuff. Yeah. I mean, I'm 100 percent in terms of health. I see. OK, OK. But it's like building up the energy and. you know, going back to the routine, it takes forever. I mean, it's like athletes when they, I'm not an athlete, but I'm just saying. Millie, no, everybody on this podcast is a fucking athlete. Okay. That's how, that's how we approach. It's a mentality. It's how we approach life. Yeah. Well, it's a Mamba mentality. Yeah. It's a Mamba mentality podcast. Yeah. It's really like, it's tough though. It's like, you got to go start over again and do the whole thing. And then COVID happened, which is like, That's fucking up your berries, isn't it? Yeah. You're not in the gym again. No, I have a trainer here that we go outside to a park, and then I'm playing tennis and running. It's actually been great. I don't miss the gym at all, to be honest, but I don't. I mean, I just wonder what the future looks like. I'll go back to a gym, of course, because I'm an idiot and will jump the gun if it's offered to me. You know what I mean? Chris is what we call a super spreader in the industry. I'm not a super spreader! Jason! And that has nothing to do with a thigh fitness move. That is purely virus-based. Viral-based, yeah. But I don't know. I wonder what the future of it looks like because I think that people...

there's two lines of thought with all this stuff with like live music too. It's like people are never going to go back. And the other side is people are dying to go back in my, you know what I mean? There's both factions, I think. And with both of those things, Republicans and Democrats, exactly. Yeah. But like, if they tell me I can go to a gym and it's like legal and I do what I'm supposed to do, I'll go same thing with like a show. You know what I mean? If it's like, okay, we've kind of figured this out. I don't need to be the first person in there. But, like, how do we not, like, try to go back to some sort of normalcy if it's deemed, you know, acceptable? If the Goo Goo Dolls are ready to play, Chris is ready to be there front row. Yeah, I'll see. If Resnick texts me and said, we're playing tonight at the Troubadour, you know what I mean? I'm going down. Well, Jason, I saw this article with you a while ago where you had built, like, a home gym in your yard. Thank you. Don't gas him up, Millie. Well, and it was interesting because it was like, I mean, I had a couple of things at home. But my big thing is that I just don't have the discipline to be at home and do like a real hardcore workout schedule because I just fuck around. I mean, I need the structure of like a group fitness, of a destination, of like a training. You know what I mean? So I don't know. Like I was like looking at your home gym going, shit, I should do some shit like that. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people are the same exact, like my, my girlfriend and I, we live together and she's the same exact way. Like it has to be a group type of class for her to really get that motivation and drive and like the competitive spirit going on. And for me, like, I don't, I don't know. I like, I use it more as like a way to get away from people than to be around people. Like I get annoyed when I'm working out at the gym. and I have to wait for a machine or there's too many people around or an annoying bro, and I just focus and fixate on them the whole time, and it ruins my day. Also, when you're working out solo, you can be butt-ass naked. You could wear ugly-ass clothes. It doesn't matter. I would never do that because that takes fitness seriously, and it's a pro-gear, pro-attitude situation. But, you know, this Cali heat is something I am not used to.

Yesterday, I thought they were going to take me off a tennis court in a fucking wheelchair. I was like, it's so fucking hot that the outside stuff, I feel like I'm getting acclimated to it, but it's still a very different way to approach it. It's so different. Where do you play tennis at? Do you play over on a certain court? We play in Glendale near Jason's. A few different places, but that's the place I've been playing a lot, which I like. It's pretty quiet. But, you know, the tennis court adds 10 degrees, that steaming hot concrete. Oh, she's sizzling, honey. She's literally sizzling. We could have cooked an egg yesterday. We're still trying to get Chris out of that shirt, though. It's so wet and soggy, but he just continues to leave it on. The only time I'm shirtless is on this podcast when I'm at home. Yeah, he has no – I never even thought about that. No problem at all podcasting shirtless. But outside, 100-degree heat, blistering sun, sweat like a whore in church, and the polo sport tee stays on. Jason, think about it, though. A professional tennis player, they're not allowed to take their shirt off. So I'm approaching it like a professional is how I look at it. I can't argue with that logic. That makes a lot of sense. That's how I look at it because it's all mental. When you picked up that first racket, you took an oath, my brother. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Stick to the G-code of our nation's tennis courts. I stick to the G-code. Amelia, I want to talk to you since you know Chris from way, way back. I think a lot of listeners would like to maybe hear some of his origin stories because the monster that he is nowadays is such a larger-than-life... creature that we're just fascinated to know how how he got to where he is now i mean i i will tell you the first time i remember meeting you i had i mean obviously it was the thing where i had heard about you before i actually oh great his reputation precedes him yeah well you know just in this like so where was taking back sunday playing was it like a smaller venue or how does it work

Millie would never go see Taking Back Sunday. She's way, way cooler than that. Damn right. I was working, I was at Criminal Records when I was working at Criminal Records and you came in with a girl with like short hair, short dark hair. It was like you and a girl. And y'all were both, they all had tattoos and like you had a Smith shirt on. Hell yeah. I remember you guys bought records and I rung you up and I was like, oh, it's that dude. It's that dude. It's that dude, he's buying, wait, three Ryan Adams CDs at one time. So he had like a, like, why, why did he have this kind of infamous reputation or why was he known just, you know, what was he doing that was making him, you know, cause these waves through the scenes of ATL? I'll tell you. So when I was in high school, like, first of all, cause I went to high school up in Marietta, which was North of the city. And like, there was this like crew. of hardcore kids that went to my high school that were so mean and they were they were fucking so mean to me and my friends like especially me though i don't know why they were just mean to me well what was what was your group that you were with like were you guys the the nerds the jocks the goths i mean it was like my my i was like the refuge table like all the people that the refugee table I was, I basically hung out with like goth kids and punk kids. So it was like, there was like a whole crew of like skater guys that were into like no effects and Pennywise and all that shit. They were actually like cool and popular. I was like below that shit. Like real losers. So you were kind of a spaz perhaps? I think I was just loud and annoying and extra maybe. What music were you identifying with in high school? Big Smiths, Morrissey. You know, I did a little alternative shit. Like I was into like Stone Temple Pilots and Smashing Pumpkins and shit. But it was really like, yeah. I mean, it was basically like classic college radio shit. REM, Smith, like, you know. You're a cool alternative chick.

yeah i try even though i look terrible i look at pictures like i man i i like really but it was like i i was kind of friends with everybody but they were uncool like that's what i want to say like it wasn't like i was hanging out with anybody else king of the losers got it and then Yeah, but there was a group of guys who were really into Earth Crisis and some other shit that they used to make fun of me and my friends. So cut to knowing about Chris Black, knowing that he was a hardcore kid. There was a moment where I was like, oh man, I bet you he's one of those mean hardcore kids that used to fuck with me and my friends. But when you came in wearing that Smith shirt and you were nice to me, I was like, all right. I'm just a sweetheart. I'm a nice guy. You know what I mean? Unfortunately, I think hardcore has gotten a bad rap. You know what I mean? But there were a lot of mean suburban white guys in that world. I think we learned with Chris Black, he was the first person in your life where somebody said, get you a man who could do both. And you did. I can like songs about lighting fur farms on fire and also about writing your name onto a... letter and sending it to a loved one yeah i mean but millie criminal records at the time was like it was very cool to work there you know what i mean it was like a hard job to get it's like a classic john hughes style like like getting hired at soho house or something like that it ain't for everyone sweetie yeah yeah yeah and criminal records specifically was the one but i feel like everybody there was pretty friendly i never got vibed out there Yeah, I mean, it was a little bit more. I mean, versus somewhere like Wax and Facts, which was real vinyl head, like real music heads only type of thing. Criminal was a little bit more like the town's cool record store. So it was a little bit more. Well, the problem is you guys had comic books. So I think that opens you up to a whole world of dorks. I'm out. Yeah, totally, totally. And I didn't work there that long. I mean, I only worked there for like less than a year. Oh, really?

working there i was definitely like oh shit i fucking hit the big time baby so so you met chris for the first time at the record store and then you know you would just kind of see him around after a while and you guys became chummy is that what happened pretty much like because then you you you put on my lenny's thing when i was a dj you were kind of like i was a A light promoter, you know what I would say? Not like Jason, legendary promoter, my co-host. Just a little light hosting, you know what I mean, I would say? Light hosting? Yeah. No light hosting. Light hosting means you have a new place to do coke at? What is light hosting for you? I mean, yeah, kind of. I mean, it was like a, it was the shittiest club I've ever been. That place was a fucking dump. It was called Lenny's. It was actually disgusting. And yeah, I did do a lot of coke there. I think I have like trough toilets. Trough toilets. It was real. Cause I worked there. It was right around the time that it was, it used to be Dottie's and then it changed names to Lenny's. Cause I worked there when it was Dottie's, which was even worse. Millie, Jason, Millie was DJing where you were still fucking, you know, getting. burritos in huntington beach bro i was i was still an embryonic turntable list exactly yes billy's been djing since 1995 yeah i was really damn you know like it was such a it was a shithole but then like when they start when they change it over to lenny's that's when they started like bringing in cool people to you know kind of hang out and dj there and at that time i think i just remember you from you know going out like i just remember seeing you out with like your bros and nightlife fixtures chris was chris was a scene star and you know it was so lenny's was a lot of like a lot of like coke a lot of like painkillers for sure uh so so it was a chris black kind of place is what you're saying

It actually, it was substance-wise a Chris Black kind of place, visually not a Chris Black kind of place. No, definitely not a high design, but it was lots of good drugs. Yeah, it was fun. But you DJed, I mean, you DJed a lot. And you did that gay party for years too, right? Yeah, I mean, I did Lenny's for a while. And then I was trying to, you know, it was the kind of thing where I'd be DJing with other DJs who are primarily dudes. you know it was this vibe where i was like going in they they would go oh hey come and dj this thing with me at mjq and then they put me on at like 9 30 when there's like no one there and i was just like this fucking sucks and then it wasn't until i started djing at mary's that it was really like you know that's when i had my own night that's when i was able to create my own parties like you know like all these other straight ass clubs with all these dudes were like not letting do anything so i was like well i guess i gotta go to the gay bar and you know do my own times really have changed because back then it really was you know quite difficult for female djs or i guess female you know any type of the performing arts much much more difficult than it is nowadays and nowadays it still is quite difficult but it was really fucked up back then but also the thing about you djing to me was always like you had a real job like for a long time Like you had like a career and would still do it. And I was like, damn, she really loves this shit. But I guess music, I mean, cause you do the radio thing too. I guess it's like, you do it for so long. It's like muscle memory at a certain point. It's like, I just do this even though I, cause you would DJ like till like the clothes and then get up and go to work the next day. Oh shit. Yeah. The first, the first like three or four years that I worked at. Damn, you're making me look bad. Go ahead. But no, it was the first three, like the first three or four years that I worked at TCM. Like, I mean, it was rough. Like I had.

I got a talking to a few times by my boss. It was like, like you, you came in here, you smell like fucking cigarettes and booze and like, you look like shit. And like, you gotta like, you know, at some point you have to do this better. Like you have to manage your time. And so after that's when I quit basically after a couple of years. Fuck you dad. I mean, let's, let's talk about your job because I think it's, I don't know if people know what it is. Sure. You know what I mean? But it's basically DJing for a TV station. Damn, when you put it that way, I finally understand it, Chris. Pretty much, yeah. It's basically that. I mean, it's really like, so basically I work at Turner Classic Movies, which is a cable channel, and I put the movies on, so it's like exactly what you said. But this is the part that I didn't fully understand. that you've explained to me before, but there's a lot of contractual chasing that goes on to get the rights to play these movies. Because a lot of the stuff that you're playing, to be clear, is kind of niche, indie, weird, hard to find. It's not a studio blockbuster we're talking about. Yeah, I mean, I think, well, obviously, we play older films, right? So a lot of that is, so you're not really going to see anything that's made in the last 10 years or so, I would say. um and then when it comes to that you know we have like a library that warner brothers owns essentially of films and it's like you know based on these like classic hollywood studio contracts so you know they it but it's like stuff like casablanca citizen kane singing in the rain all the classic shit yeah so we have that library but then we want to go out and find other things to play as well so that's when you do like you know contracts and you have to do the legwork of like tracking down who owns films and who has the rights to stuff and it's a little like music too if you want to you know if you want to go out and find like records that you haven't you know and you want to put them on your reissue label or something like that you have to work of like figuring that out so

Have you been watching a lot of stuff during quarantine or are you feeling burned out? Yeah. You know, I got to tell you, I watched so many movies on my normal hours that when quarantine hit, I was like, nah. I don't want to do this. I was like, nah. You reached the end of movies. No more movies left. Truly. And all these people on Twitter were like, you know, film Twitter. I don't know if you guys fuck with film Twitter. If you don't, I totally understand, but it's a real nerdy, but, uh, film Twitter is like, Oh, here's like, you know, I'm going to post all my recommendations from all the streaming services for quarantine. And I was like, nah, I don't want to watch anything. I like, I'm really into the TV. Like pretty much, it was pretty much like quarantine happened. No films, nothing of, of substance Vanderpump rules. That's all I want to watch. during quarantine. 90 Day Fiance is the wildest shit on television. It is fucking awesome. All the franchises, all of them. I feel like it's revived TLC as like a business. They have so many different versions of it now. It's like a 365 show. Like they have all these spinoffs. fucking like they they're doing the most with that shit it's also kind of one of those things and i'm sure jason hasn't watched it but it's one of those things that's like you kind of don't you can kind of pick up anywhere and watch it and it's fucked up and good and you can and you don't need to know evergreen content much like selling sunset yeah it's like selling sunset in that way where it's like you can literally pick it up and watch it and just be like this was wild and then watch it again three weeks later you don't need to really follow the storyline it's not that important And I tell people, too, both of my parents are immigrants. And if you have immigration in your family at all, like if you date an immigrant, if your parents are immigrants or something, this is your show. Because that's all it's about. I've dated some immigrants. Continue. God damn it. God damn it. But if it's in your wheelhouse to be interested in people who are trying to come to America or immigrate out of America, then it's it.

Dan, that's a good point, actually, because you're right. That's like kind of the hardest part of the show. It's like I'm moving from Uzbekistan to Dallas. Right. And it's going to be a shock. So 90 Day Fiance, it's immigration porn is what we're saying. Basically. Pretty much. For the real heads. And, you know, you've got like, you know, a big thing is like you sort of see a lot of, let's say, older gentlemen, older women. from america who are uh going to you know the ukraine and uh russia like and then you see other guys there's like very specific you learn about the very specific dating websites for certain countries like there's like guys that only want to date colombian women or only want to date you know ukrainian women so it's like real fascinating i mean it's just it's the best i mean it's it's also fully i think it's in the same vein is like the bravo stuff it's like fully crossed over into like pop culture like getting analyzed by like great minds you know what i mean my favorite thing is when trash tv crosses over into the new yorker 10 000 word story about why we all like it so much and it's like thanks to my friend nomi fry yeah that's basically nomi's beat but i mean i do think that stuff is like i just relate so much like i can't i've always loved tv like that but i think so have you i mean I know you were a real-world head, too. Oh, yeah. Well, Vanderpump, I think, definitely got to that point. I think that the Vanderpump thing is completely fascinating to me. I mean, I think it's basically a bunch of... I feel like there's a bunch of smart people that watch it who would know people like that from high school and are just curious on how the other side lives, because that's how I see it, where I'm like... man it's like imagine like this group of popular people from my high school who are still friends and they all married each other and they live five minutes from each other and it's just sort of like holy shit that's what vanderpump is so i think it's over like i feel like it's it's it's gone too far like probably two seasons too long you know what i mean i agree like once to me it immediately stopped getting interesting when they all were like

we have a pact to all be boring married people in the Valley. Like I was just kind of like, all right, like this is enough. Like, you know, sometimes the pump grows up guys. I know, but it's, it's bad for business. Like I think in all the like scandal that's happened and stuff is like, not even that, like, it's just not that interesting anymore, you know, but stuff like that has to run its course. Like that can't last forever. No, because at a certain point, yeah, maybe you do get tired of seeing like 37, 38 rules, like, you know, going on with all these weird. places in west hollywood being like okay like i love that you're a west hollywood resident because i'm a west hollywood guy myself i i actually am moving from there we're two fam we don't know yet we don't know yet like i my shit is in Van Nuys right now. Um, I packed it up before I left. And so when I come back to LA, I'm going to be in the market for a new, new apartment. What's, what's our dream goal neighborhoods. Let's, let's wield them to existence, put it into the universe. Well, that's interesting to me too, because maybe you know more about this. Well, you've lived there for a long time, Jason. Like I'm like, honestly, boy. Yeah. When I moved to West Hollywood, I was definitely like, yeah, this is my like, starter apartment in my new town it's like living in midtown atlanta it's just sort of like in the middle of everything i'm a youtuber this is where i should be yeah yeah it became you know clear after a while i was like all right maybe i need to be somewhere else i mean also like in my 40s so i'm also like how do i navigate that in LA. But you also like being, you know, in the proximity of an Erewhon, for example, right? You like some of the amenities still. Certainly. Like, there's some, I like, yeah, I would say, yeah, I like that part of it. You're not a suburban, I mean, you could go as far as Pasadena, maybe, Max? Maybe. Like, I can definitely fuck with, like, maybe Highland Park.

or Eagle Rock. But what about, you have to go to Burbank, correct? Yeah, that's where my office is. That's Jason's favorite neighborhood. All right, sweetie, you're coming to Glendale. Yeah, Jason's done and done. Jason's a Glendale resident. He'll sell you on it all day. I visit the Burbank Whole Foods multiple times a week. That one, that's on Olive Barham? Is that the new one? You bet your ass, sister. That is my shit. That is my shit. Before quarantine, I went there for lunch because I work across the street on the Warner Brothers lot. This is the nicest fucking Whole Foods ever. The one in West Hollywood, the one that's on Fairfax, is a fucking dump. It is a dump. Also an outdoor parking lot. When you see the Burbank one, you're like, that's a fucking shithole. It's so clean and nice and totally awesome. I was like, oh my god i would and they have that rei that's out in um empire center in burbank i kind of like it burbank used to be like the worst you know zero culture suburban dumbass part of la and it kind of quiet i mean a lot of people that live there are shitty and stupid it's it's where like the the industry dorks live like like the set designers that like have like too many like Ren and Stimpy toys in their house and stuff like that. And like everyone who dreams of starting like a vintage, you know, sewing machine store or something, that's where Burbank is. But it's been taken over by like industry dweebs and like, you know, people that work at all the studios but aren't cool. But they did a good job with it. I stay in Burbank now. I can see you in Glendale, though. Spending a lot of time out there, it's really fucking nice. It feels good out there, is what I'm trying to say. Overall, the streets are wide. Millie, why don't you just come on home now? Come on home to Glendale. Listen, I do not... I love that kind of shit. That was the thing. When I lived in Atlanta, I lived in Decatur, which is kind of what I think... I don't live in Decatur necessarily, but it's like...

I don't need to be in the middle of shit the way that I needed to before. I will fuck with Glendale. Just be 15 minutes away from the shit in exchange for being able to have a nice glass of sweet tea on the porch. Fuck that. I'm in the mix. I want to be as in the mix as possible. You two losers are old. Where would you live, Chris, if you lived in LA? I want to be in the mix. Honestly, I would probably live in... Los Feliz. I like West Hollywood. I think it's cool. Yeah. It's not cool. It is so not cool. It is the Times Square of LA. Jason, again, your suburban Spanish-style home is beautiful, but it's different strokes for different folks, maybe. So you want a WeHo McMansion next to Alfred Coffey? Good God almighty. I want to be able to walk to the Isabel Morant store on Melrose Place. No, I just, I mean, that is cool. I get that. I just, I just think it, I just like it. I can't explain it. It's like central. And I don't think, I think it's more of the Union Square of LA, not Times Square. Well, but you're talking about the part down by the Beverly Center, well, close to the Beverly Center, because I lived, my West Hollywood was in between Fairfax and La Brea, so I lived in the Russian part. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Little Mod is nice. You lived in the bakery district. Yeah. Lots of great sweet treats down there, thanks to our friends from the Far East. But you want to live closer to, like, fucking, what's that? You want to live, like, near the Boys Town-ish part, sort of. Yes. I mean... I would live in a lot of places over there. I think if you can find a crazy old apartment, I just think there's really beautiful stuff that gets overlooked because the neighborhood is considered bad, for lack of a better term. I think WeHo really has been gentrified for the worst. People talk about Highland Park and East LA being gentrified, but West Hollywood used to be like...

a place where every gay person could live and be free and it was their neighborhood. And it's really just been taken over by influencers. And that, that's what bums me out. Yeah. Highland park, Millie. I hate it. I hate it. It's just too like faux indie and it needs like 10 more years. Yeah. It feels far away. I mean, that's the only thing. Yeah. Wow. I feel far away, but, and it's like off the one 10. Is that what I'm thinking of? That's the tiny freeway. It's the working man's highway. It's true. It seems like it's from another era, that's for damn sure. Like, wow. It literally was built when cars could not go that fast. That's why the roads are kind of curved a little aggressively and the lanes are smaller, yeah. Oh, yeah. Wow, I didn't know that. That makes a lot of sense. I've spent a lot of time on the 110. I can tell you more about California's gold whenever you guys are ready. You've got to start that up again. So you have no plan to come back right now? It's just you're going to ride it out? Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of – I'm definitely here until the end of the year just because – Oh, wow. Okay. Did you get a good room at The Standard or what's going on? Well, I mean, right now I'm in a friend's parent's house waiting to go and see my family. So I'm kind of here for a week. And then I'm just going to be hanging out with my family for a while. Once I hear back about what work is going to do, I know. Yeah. With my nephews and stuff, but it's like, um, once I hear what's going to happen with like our office, then I'll figure out where's, you know, cause if they say to us, everyone's working from home forever, like we're not going to pay for commercial real estate anymore. Let's just all work from home. Then I will, I don't know. I get to live anywhere I want really. But yeah. How has COVID affected watching, I guess, just your ratings and the desire and demand for watching these classic films? I mean, business is tight, man. If you own a TV network or some kind of streaming service, it's like... Which I do. Yeah. If you own a TV network, life is good right now?

tj tv available wherever you stream so business is booming you say oh yeah i would say i mean it's like i know a lot of people that aren't working and that sucks but i think my corner of it is you know fine it's kind of interesting because you know in in the world of of streaming and networks everyone is just so concerned with like what is you know we need more content more content what you know who's making it who's got it blah blah blah and you guys just have you know all the content that you guys are going to to share it has already been created right so if you so it's a little different to say if you're in if you were doing production right now like that would kind of i mean like no you're like netflix is is you know taking dozens of meetings every week with new ideas for shows and movies and their green lighting projects and all that stuff and you guys are just like here's an old movie that's sick i'm let's just put it up That sounds pretty easy and fun. Ideal, actually. It is. Weirdly enough, if I owned a movie theater right now, if I was doing theatrical, that kind of shit, I'd be freaked out, but we're good. Do you miss going to the movies? I know you're a pretty big movie head theater. It's so funny because I sort of do, but I also don't. I'm like, it's all right. It's not that kind of thing where I'm like, I'm really looking forward to going back to the arc light just to sit in there, you know, it's just sort of like do when I don't, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm actually really good at like entertaining myself during COVID. Like, I'm like, I'm not having a problem right now. I know there's people out there that are like, I'm freaking out. I'm so bored. I'm on my best suicidal and stuff. Are you talking about me to my face guys? Cause I'm right here. Yeah, I mean, you know, I can make popcorn at home that tastes just as good as Arclight. I don't need that bullshit. And my driveway has free validation for my parking. God damn it. Spoken like a true LA asshole. No one talks about parking validation except LA residents. That's for fucking sure. Millie, what is your movie theater snack vibe? What are we copying at the concession stand?

I like to do the thing where you take some popcorn and then you throw some peanut M&Ms in. She's a mixer. Yeah. That's my thing. That's cool. I mean, that's pretty fucking good. Yeah, there's nothing to hate on that. That's fire and ice where I'm from. I'm glad you didn't say Twizzlers or something fucked up. Oh, no. I like to try to create my own little trail mix-y type of scenario. You've been cooking. You've been doing some baking during the quarantine. Oh God. Just like the, I just love, I'm sorry. I like cooking now. You didn't like it. You didn't like it before. Oh no, I did, but I really, you really come into your own. Yeah. Like I really spent some real hours with it. What are we tackling lately? What's our, what is our wheelhouse in the, in the kitchen? Well, I mean, it's like, I, I do a lot of like, I love, like a minestrone type of thing. So anything that has like beans and tomatoes and something like, I like cooking like hearty stew type stuff. So perfect for a summertime in Cali type of vibe. Exactly. Hot minestrone soup soup. Good God. Continue. I keep the oven on, which is so dumb. But I like a summer salad, though, like any kind of summer salad. So I like dishes that have lots of layers of vegetables or beans component-wise. But baking is fun. I mean, I was never really good at baking until quarantine. And now I get it. What were you doing? Cookies, cakes, pies, bread? I mean, listen, I downloaded the New York Times cooking app and just looked up ingredients. I was like getting my CSA box going, oh, I have like rhubarb. Let me fucking see what I can make with this. And it was always like some kind of cake or, you know, whatever, like shrewsel or whatever. So it's that kind of thing where I'm like, try it, you know? How many galettes can I eat in one week? You know what I mean?

That sounds pretty good. I like a rhubarb flavor in my baked good. I'm not mad at that. I will say I'm a fruit dessert person, which is really weird because I used to be like a chocolate. As a kid, I was always like a chocolate vanilla. But now I'm like fruit all day. Good to see you maturing as you're aging. We're in the middle of Georgia peach season. You guys know that, don't you? I'm not a big peach guy, Jason, as you know. which is just wrong. You don't like it? What kind of fruit? Are you like a tropical? I'm a berry guy. I'm a member of the berry family. I like oranges a lot. Bananas are a nice on-the-go potassium hit. I didn't know you were an orange, Stan. It's too much work, but I love them. Well, they're good for you. I know that like... fruit-wise, for caloric intake, berries are better than bananas and shit. But the sugar is high. Yeah. You know, we just can't win, Millie. If it tastes good, it's bad for you. That's basically the rule. Can't win. I don't really think eating some berries is bad for you guys. We'll be quite alright. Jason, all I ever see you eat is cigarettes, so explain that one to me. And I'm still looking good, bitch. That's true. Alright, that's true. Gonna die soon. Looking good. Well, you know, I want to leave a good-looking corpse, Jason. You know how I feel. Millie, thank you for joining us. This was a real pleasure to catch up. Thanks for having me. I was like, damn, they are asking me to do it. Y'all do three podcasts a week? Is that what I hear? That's right. That's true. That's right. Damn. That is intense. We need you back in the podcasting world. I think you should figure something out, you know? Well, I'm not going to say anything now, but... exclusive we're gonna be doing a podcast pretty soon great so more on that later but i uh i'm like really glad you guys asked me because i'm like all right they got like 27 30 guests and i'm not on it yet try 60 sweetie try 60 yeah like you're not 60 guests oh we've had now maybe not probably like 50 because we do episodes where it's just me and jason um oh that's a good point

But yeah, I mean, I think that the pace that we have created for ourselves is weirdly fine. Like we've kind of just locked into it and it's like what we do. But it sounds daunting on paper. You know what I'm saying? It sounds crazy, but it's actually fine. But there are other podcasts that do it more frequently than we do. So we're not as severe as some other ones. No. Yeah, I think the most popular shows are once a week. So that's what we're all used to. Yeah, I keep hearing that. After all these podcast talks that I've been in, they're like, you've got to do it once a week. And I'm like, oh, shit, really? Okay. Well, I appreciate that you came to us to tell us that Marc Maron's retiring and you're replacing him. So thank you for that important exclusive. And I hope your lawyer doesn't get mad at you for that. Tell everyone where they can find you online. I'm on Twitter under my name. I got to tell you, I haven't been tweeting much because I've just been like burnout on Twitter. Sorry. But it's Millie DeCherico and I'm on Instagram too. I don't know. My web presence is kind of bullshit, but you know. We need you back on Twitter. It's your best medium, much like myself. But it got serious and I don't know, man. Millie, trust me, it ain't serious anymore. Okay, let me talk to you from Blue Check Hive, and we're saying we're bringing it back down to Earth, baby. Thank God. Thank God. All right, well, look, be safe down there. Enjoy your time, and we will talk to you soon. All right, guys. Bye. Bye.