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All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How long gone? Oh, it's beautiful. Tuesday here in Money Making Manhattan. The good people of this borough are back to work. The streets are abuzz. The energy is palpable. There's probably still some stragglers, you know, on their way back from Croatia or East Hampton or, you know, wherever they choose to summer. No, no, it's just those two places. But the real ones are back in front of the machine, locked into the laptop. They got their podcast mics. up and sorted you know i popped a fresh there's a lot of scoops to scoops you have a fresh candle fresh candle the new the new house yeah so you know it's a big day for me personally as well what which candle does chris black use to sage his new abode i like to lay a base of diptyque patchouli one of my favorite most underrated fragrances um and i so i bought a couple of those on on my favorite website lucky scent.com and uh had them sent right over it is that is pause i don't even know why but it is i completely agree um i couldn't okay yeah so so everyone is back at the machine chloe mall molly mall mall Chloe, is it Mal? Is it like Frederick Mall or is it Mal? Do you know? I've never said it out loud. This is the first day where many people are saying that name out loud. Shout out to Chloe if you're a listener. She's been in the game. Chloe's worked at Vogue for 15 years. She definitely doesn't listen to this podcast. That's not a definite. I'm happy somebody got the job.

Um, after all, but you know, I'm, I'm more happy that Lauren Sherman did break the news. Lauren Sherman over, over at the puck corporation, um, led the streets. She fed the streets. The scoop is scooping. The scoop was scooped. I was, I honestly, I was surprised how many people went with it before there was confirmation. So I, that's a, that's a testament to, uh, to Lauren. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to puck. Shout out to Lauren, dear friend of the show. I was supposed to go hang out with her this weekend at her house. uh before oasis played but off to croatia i go sorry besitos though but yeah i mean it's cool i think we can i think we should get chloe on the pod if you don't have a plug i can go around you maybe even over you i know that she oversaw projects like dog doge that's just i think it's just dog it's um it's a cover contest for dog is it just dog i mean it's i mean dog they don't it's not called vogue magazine sure sure but dog is tough because it enters the doge category it enters a big ball that's that's true it's a dangerous it's a dangerous but the spelling is is nice smelling it's vogue with a d she also hired jack schlossberg and she broke uh wnba news and i also heard that she has disney villain legos collection So, you know, Anna's Vogue pushes on. Chic with a capital C. Well, I mean, the reality is that until Anna Wintour dies, no one will actually have a job there of that stature. So it's merely... And I saw a good joke. Shout out to Chloe. The position does pay $55,000 per year annual salary. That was a pretty good joke. It got me. If I have to hear about that one more fucking time, I'm going to lose my... If you want a job and it doesn't pay what you want it to, just don't get the job. That's it. You don't apply for the job. No, no, no. Here's my counter-argument. But I want more. Come on. Of course. I always want more. Every time I do anything, I want more. Whether it's money, whether it's drugs, whatever it is, I want more. But you have to understand that if there's – Back in my day, that job didn't pay at all. If there's an independent business that is saying up front to you, we have $55,000. Here are the responsibilities. What's the issue there?

What's the problem? Everything is on the table. Everything is laid out on the table. It is your decision as a human being with a brain to decide if you want to work for the Cutting Room Floor podcast. I think it was a nice thing of the Cutting Room Floor podcast to do. Maybe the first interesting thing I've heard from the Cutting Room camp. Who knows? I wish many more podcast creators were up front and transparent about like, hey, we're an independent small business. Here's a job. Here's how much it pays. Not everyone can work with that. Some people can. Well, she gets this much for a post and blah, blah. Who cares? That's her money. She gets to do what she wants with it. It's her company. So if you don't want to do the job, then don't do it. Do you really want to be in podcasting that badly? I don't. But it's like fashion overall, though. No, sure. Of course. It's honestly crazy to me how big that got. Because I just don't think it's like... Once again, we're taking away people's agency and acting like there's no free will in the world and that you have to do a job that you don't want for the money you don't want, which just from my understanding is not necessarily the case. I think lastly, Chloe's idea to make the magazine less frequent with maybe six issues a year instead of 12 or maybe quarterly and have them be higher quality book-like pieces like these kind of – Smaller, expensive, high fashion magazines that you get as collectible items with thicker. you know, paper stock and all that stuff. I think that's a step in the right direction for the future of print, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, how many people do you see reading a physical copy of Vogue magazine in the real world? I don't see people reading any magazines in the real world because they, I mean, at best they get them sent to their house, you know what I mean? Or they buy them at the... Maybe the New Yorker. That's about all I see, you know? Yeah, you see the New Yorker. And I live in the valley. On the airplane, yeah. Do you really live in the valley? Technically, Glendale is considered the valley, but the valley... I didn't know that, actually. The valley, it's a gray area, you know, because there's the west valley, there's the north, and then I'm on the east side. So, you know, it's all the valley, but, you know, they would make fun of me for where I live if you grew up in Hollywood, and now it's kind of the other way around. It's like, oh, you live in Hollywood? I'm so sorry. Okay, I guess, do we have time to talk about Tim Dillon really quick?

Yeah, I mean. Comedian Tim, if you don't know, he admits he's doing a stand-up show in Abu Dhabi, and he's getting another person transparent about fees and salaries. He's getting paid $375,000 to do a show, and there's a lot of interesting angles to approach this from. I mean, the interesting angle is that he's like, I care about myself more than I care about others. And I think that if more people... I guess when distilled down, yeah. And if more people admitted that, I think we would live in a better world. I really do. I think it's like, what can you say? Of course, Saudi Arabia is a place that is full of awful crimes and people are treated like shit and it's bad. No one can argue that. Tim definitely isn't arguing that. But Tim's saying they're offering me $375,000 to do an hour of stand-up comedy. I would be stupid not to take the money. He was saying... If you pay me enough money, eventually I will be able to ignore the atrocities. Anything. With his agent and lawyer and management team, they found out what that dollar amount was for doing a show. What I was thinking of, it sets a little bit of a precedence where it was like the Dubai Gulf. The theme of Happy Gilmore 2 was about the evil predatory golf company with their big checks taking all the players and ruining the golf world. This is going to happen now with entertainment. I was thinking, I feel like in the near future or even now, people are more likely to get a check from Abu Dhabi or Saudi Arabia or places where they... cut your head off and throw you off a building if you're gay. They would rather get a check from them than from Tesla just because of the optics. Yeah, 100%. I mean, aligning yourself with Elon Musk in any way in America is worse than aligning yourself with war criminals from a foreign land. That's 100% true. And that is bad.

That is bad. And that's just – it's all PR. It's all optics. I just found – And it's all facts don't matter. I found it to be very – I thought it was interesting. I mean I think that few people will side with him on it, but he does have an audience. Like he does – he's not – I mean Cho said this earlier, but he's got nothing to lose. He has no studio. The advertisers know what they're getting into. It's all him. It doesn't matter. He can say whatever he wants. What are you going to say about me that I haven't already said about myself? I'm a fat piece of shit. He can say whatever he wants. And that is freeing because most people in his position... even at even on a larger scale can't do that um okay well that being said i don't know what our dollar amount is to do a live podcast event much less than 375 i'll tell you that i'll tell you that i mean it depends on what the flights look like but you know middle east get in touch uh i you know pull up booking dot yeah let's see what the see what we got let's see what what the what the housing one of them air emirates yeah i need boxes where i got purple curtains in the home burgundy curtains we need our we need our emirates we need separate pods okay we're not sharing one we're not sharing one of those double beds i don't care how big it is fellas is it gay to sleep together on the airplane okay we have a guest today a couple members of fellas bar italia a band that both chris and i enjoy a lot i think they're great and their new record we got it few weeks ago some like it hot it's gonna be a winner some like it hot comes out october 17th okay soon on our on our dear friends at matador records okay excited to speak with them let's give them a zoom this episode of how long gone is brought to you by a new podcast from the guardian stateside with kai and carter this is covering a lot of our bases jason it's a it's trying to slow down The news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions. A lot of questions. But how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire owned.

They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? You know, especially when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen. All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Quince. Jason, the temps are warming up. It's getting hot out there. Summer always changes how I get dressed. I need pieces that feel lighter, more breathable, and they're just easy but still put together. I don't look like a slob. That's why I keep coming back to Quince. They focus on high-quality essentials that feel and look amazing. Breathable linen and soft organic cottons. Well-made basics but without the luxury markups. That rare balance where everything feels elevated. but still effortless. Yeah, Chris, linen season is here. I wore a linen blazer to dinner a few nights ago in the warm California sun. But, you know, you got that Italy trip coming up this summer and quality European linen pants and shirts. Upgrade that look starting at just $34. You know, if you get a nice linen suit, a little t-shirt underneath it, some chill shoes, you're looking good, but you're staying cool. The inside of your special areas are nice and dry as you turn up with your besties. So elevate that summer wardrobe. Go to quince.com slash how long for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, even on a nice holiday now available in Canada. That is Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince punto com slash how long. Oh, this is huge for me personally. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by TaskRabbit. Oh, baby, let me tell you something. This is not a joke. I use TaskRabbit a lot because I can't do anything. You need some art hung? TaskRabbit. You need a fucking...

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Are you talking about Kratom? No. Do I have a mic? No, I don't need it. You jealous of my mic? No. No, you should be. He sounds amazing. He looks so professional. They could probably get you one of those on Amazon by the end of the day, but that wouldn't be. It's fine. I'll just project. I'll just project. Everyone sounds good. I think we're lucky here. We're lucky here. Kraken. Okay, Nina and Jasmine from Bar Italia, what's up? What's good? What's really good? How's New York? Fucking love it. What is it that you like so much? Everything but the people. Do you guys each own your own headphones, just for my understanding? No. I think I'm the only one who does own headphones. You don't own headphones. You're not kidding. What do you mean? I mean, do you listen to music in headphones that you own? Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. I didn't know. I didn't know if you were a... speaker person no i just listen out of the phone yeah well there's like people there's a movement of like no more bluetooth it's all about the wired headphones i was wondering if you took it a step further and said headphones like what what kind of cretin would listen to music with those yeah actually we have no phones either so sure sure yeah i only yeah i only listen to music on vinyl and i kind of i just yell out to people when i need to talk to them i don't call them on the phone Yeah, exactly. Just hope for the best. Yeah, you hope for the best. Whoever responds, whoever responds. Have you guys done a lot of podcasting before? I don't know if I've seen it. I know you played Tim Heidecker's show a couple of years ago. Yeah. I did a football podcast once. Oh, really? You've done a few, actually. You did, no, that was radio. I was radio. What's the difference? Yeah, exactly. That's what we like to say over here to make ourselves feel better. Podcasts make money. Radio is cool. Podcasts make money. Those are the two. Well, at least the radio where you live. The radio where we live, we don't have any. Yeah, we're jealous of your rich radio community that you have in London. We don't have Nick Grimshaw here. We don't have anything like that. You go with the house done, right? Yeah, but Howard Stern doesn't really play music. You know what I mean? It's more like. He's just a bitch, isn't he? He's a bitch. He actually just quit because he didn't get what he wanted.

So he's literally a bitch. Well, he's like a billionaire bitch, but he used to – he was famous. Garbage men would call in, and then he would throw bologna at girls' asses, and then he made hundreds of millions of dollars. And now he's like an old man, and it's time for him to be put out to pasture. Let's say this. He is – sort of rejiggered his personality, which makes him a little more warm and fuzzy, which is not what people want from him. They want baloney on the ass, and he's giving, like, Obama rules. It's gone a bit vanilla. Yeah, it's gone a little bit vanilla. Yeah, the Sibian has gone, is collecting dust. Yeah, it used to be, like, porn star. I mean, you've seen clips. It was insane, actually. He would have, like, Angelina Jolie on and be like, yeah, you like dildos? I mean. Come on, show me your tits. That's the famous interview that got John Mayer in all that trouble when he called Jessica Simpson sexual napalm because she was just too hot. And he said a few other things like that. And that unfortunately stuck with him for over a decade now. That would. So be careful is what I'm saying. If you have any sexual napalms in your life, keep them to yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I do. It sounds like a bad thing, but not a good thing. Yeah, we were just in London. a few weeks ago watching Oasis down at Wembley, and we were staying right around the corner from the bar, Bar Italia. Oh. And that's my only real connection that I have with you guys. What was the name of the hotel, Chris? Kettner's. My connection to Bar Italia is some of the worst coffee I've ever had in my life. Facts. Facts. Awful. I mean, great sign. Is there something I'm missing, I guess, is what I'm asking. It's an amazing sign. I think it's... Yeah, it's terrible. I remember going in there one of the first time, like trying to speak Italian because I'm Italian. And no one knew. They were like... They don't speak Italian at Bar Italia. Yeah. So that tells you everything you need to know. That's kind of the allure. It's been explained to me that some British guys just opened it because they thought it was a cool name. Yeah. Right? There's no attachment to the country at all. I'm not sure, actually. I thought it was because of a...

like mod culture oh yeah that makes sense yeah because because of like you know the obsession with like vespers and shit like that yeah yeah yeah it seems like a good place to smoke outside of when your scooter is parked on the street right in front i would do that and then there's like ronnie scott's like across the road which is like this legendary jazz club and like it was basically the only place open kind of late um after that so people would just go and get really shit paninis from that I like who I am. It was just a bit of a museum, though. It's like none of this shit actually functions the way you expect. You mean you go into the bathroom and nothing works? Or you mean you order stuff off the menu and they're like, we don't have that? No, no. I went in there and tried to order a fucking chocolate cake and the woman was like, don't get it. It's disgusting. That makes me like this a lot more than I did before, though. To be fair, ordering chocolate cake there is weird. I want to be very clear. She's saying that because the chocolate cake that they have in stock has been sitting there for over a year. Yeah, because no one goes to the Italian. We're a drug front, so don't order any of the food here. Honestly, the panini with the schnitzel thing inside kind of slaps. It's quite good, especially if you're late night. Okay, the schnitzel panini slaps. I'll make a note of that right now. I think that's the first time those words have ever been said together. Schnitzel panini. In an Italian accent. Come on. Well, I trust you because of your, obviously, your developed Italian palate. But now I'm starting to wonder what your home cooking tastes like. Yeah, I'm actually going to Italy this weekend. Are you? Yeah. Where about? First, I go to Milano. Yeah. Modena. Sucks. Oh, that sucks. Milan's the only good city in Italy. I don't know what you're talking about. I kind of agree. Yeah, I kind of agree too. Honestly, I kind of agree too, but I'm from Rome, so I need to stick up for the hometown. Yeah, exactly. Quick question then about Rome. Why does Harry Styles keep going there? Is there something we don't know? Is the pussy that good? It is. It is. It is.

He's dating Zoe Kravitz, so clearly not. Or maybe he keeps going back because he gets told the pussy's really good and he keeps not finding it. So he's like, oh yeah, let's try again. I heard he was staying at a lesbian city in Berlin. Yeah, I think that's... Do you remember me? Do you remember my friend was saying he was staying at a lesbian community in Berlin? He's like... He's put on so many dresses today. I don't sneak his way. A lesbian community. This is the only place where people leave him alone. The only people in the world who aren't trying to suck his dick in the street. He has a lesbian haircut, so he fits in just fine over there. I love Harold, but I'm just saying I see Harry. And I always see paparazzi pictures of him in Rome. And I'm like, Rome is a beautiful, crumbling city. But it doesn't seem like a hub. But it's just full of American tourists ruining the place who know. It doesn't seem like he's able to escape in Rome. Well, there's an underbelly to Rome, which I wasn't aware of. But I'm finding it slowly. That club we went to is amazing. Yeah. And there's like some really incredible... film directors and like like all the Manny Skin kind of crew has like lives there and they're like actually quite cool people the Italian film business the Italian film business is like based in Rome yeah yeah Yeah, so maybe he's trying to get an acting role in like a Sorrentino film. Yeah, maybe he's in a new Sorrentino film. Yeah, he's trying to get some work over there. He's running low on cash, needs to get some gigs. Also, I kind of see him in Sepia. I can imagine him wanting to live a sort of Sepia 50s dream, you know? Oh. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that. But what is it about? How often do you go back to Rome? Do you miss it? Could you never go there again? I go there all the time. So you like it? I didn't like it, but I love my grandma. And so I just go back. My grandma fucking slaps. Yeah. She's graying a panini. Well, I was about to say, what's better? A schnitzel panini? She's the best pussy in town. Yeah, you should tell Harry Style. She's single. She's 87. She almost died last week, and now she's back. And she actually lost some weight.

She's back. She started her Raya. The Raya profile is back on. She almost died but I'm back. She's lost weight. She's taller than me. She looks like a model, honestly. Wow. I love getting sick, waking up in the hospital, but you lost 10 pounds. There's some upsides to everything. Yeah. I was telling her just to get her back home happy, and she was really happy about it. What did she do for a living before she was 87? She's still working. She's incredible. Actually, it's quite funny. She was the director of BBC Three. Not BBC Three. Radio Three in Italy. Whoa. She's like an OG radio person. Fellow podcaster. She was on the air. She was an original podcast. Yeah, OG podcast. It's your grandma, Joe Rogan, all the legends. I'm telling you, Harry Styles, shoot me her. She's kind of the plug. Okay, so she was like a radio host in what, like the 70s, 80s or 60s? Yeah, 70s. 70s. 60s, 70s, 80s. 90s groovy wow grandma knew where the good italian coke was i bet yeah she cooks quite well jesney has met her does she have like a sick ass vinyl collection collection no at all not at all okay no you you just you just met her what was your take um she didn't speak a word of english i was yeah so i would i had come down to go to grandma's in short shorts and need to go back upstairs and change In like 39 degrees and wearing a shirt and jeans. Sorry. My repayment for that was just being mozzarella and wine whilst giggling to myself. You didn't feel comfortable in the short shorts around Nona? Is that what it was? I wasn't allowed. He wasn't allowed. Oh, you weren't allowed. I was trying to fucking show what I got and pull. Have a little ball dripping down. No, Grandma loved Jasmine, but he had to wear long trousers. She's a lovely, lovely woman. She said, no gay shit in my house, baby. Put some pants on. Exactly. You know where you are? The damn Castro. Carbonara or Amitriciana? Which one is the best? Oh, come on. Let's talk about something else. Let's talk about London or something. Okay.

Yorkshire pudding or blood sausage, what's best? I'm just, like, feeling sorry for the interview, though. It's just getting very Italian-focused. Well, London's a little more boring. We kind of understand that. You guys contain multitudes. There's so much of rich history. London's just, like, white guys with guitars is all I know about. No, that's not true. What else is there? Put me on. They have white guys with USB sticks, too. Yeah, exactly. That's true. That's true. Of course, of course. So, have you... Have you guys all met each other's families over the years on tour? I actually met, very briefly, Jasmine's dad and mom. And I have to say, the mom is stunning. The dad has got, how do you say, oozes charisma? Oozes charisma. It's got, like, a really deep, deep charisma. But the mom is, like, she looks like a movie star, I thought. Do you know what Big Bieber was? It was, like, an art deco department store in the 70s that only employed, like, pretty girls. It's a big claim. It's like a thing. Sam's parents are two of the loveliest people I've ever met. You guys all come from normal homes. That's what you think. We're just saying the nice stuff. We can't just tell you everything. This is all surprising. But you're not Nepo babies, though. No, I'm not. I am, maybe. You've got a toe in the jacuzzi of nepotism. I'm not. Well, maybe. If I lived in Italy, I definitely would. See, this is what I say all the time. If I would have chosen to be an accountant, like my dad, I'd be a Nepo baby too. It's all just situational. Yeah, if I wanted to work my way up the milk factory, I could have done that. Or like a salsa, if you were like a salsa dancer. Are you nasty with the hips, bro? Are you moving like that? No, my dad is there. Actually, Jasmine kind of is. But it's just like, it's just going against his nature. Yeah, I'm like, I can dance, but because of my dad, I refuse to. It's just that Indy's sleaze got him sideways. I had to stop moving the hips. Yeah, the jeans got too tight. Indy's sleaze got us all sideways in one way or another. That's for sure. Sam moves his hips a lot, actually. Sam's got hips for miles. Okay. I don't need to...

I don't want to get into your dad's personal life, but is he a dancer professionally, or is this just his hobby? Right, so do you know what salsa dancing is? Shut up. Do you know what salsa dance is? I know I'm white, but so are you, so relax. My pop ain't know. The big thing in the mid-2000s was divorcees going to salsa dance to meet other divorcees. My dad was just pulling women left, right, and center. at these things was like oh shit what's the way i get all of the women is i become a instructor so i have to be there every week so he did that turned out he got really fucking good at it and started going to cuba and beating cubans amazing this turkish man was uh fucking cubans up at their own game that's the good guy so your dad had a full career and life but then he got divorced and saw that what he could do with his hips and where that would lead him and said, fuck it. I love you, but I've chosen salsa is what he said to his family. I love how you have to specify that he got divorced just in case like you didn't want to like make it sound like a proper hoe, like just cheating on Jasmine's mom. And he got divorced, guys. Don't worry. To be clear, there was no crossover. It was a clean divorce in the court of law. And then he began plowing through hoes. He was cheating on someone, though. I don't know who, but somebody was getting it. So kind of like when you're like, I'm good at Bikram. Maybe I would get more bitches if I started instructing. And then I had, you know, I got it. But it was never like a salsa cult situation. You never have. Need an interventione. Let's not go that far, Jason. I don't want to say that. I don't want to say no. It feels like anything can be a cult if you believe. I kind of did that. I became a Pilates teacher to pull. Not to pull. Not to pull? I didn't know you were a lesbian. What were you pulling? There were loads of guys in my class.

how basic of you to think that only women go to Pilates. You're right. I apologize. Yeah, exactly. Look, Chris and I have been to Pilates hundreds of times in our lives, and I'm usually the only guy in there, and the other women there don't like my presence. Well, maybe I was looking for that one special person in the class. Yeah. I need a guy who's got enough balls to show up alone to a Pilates class. Exactly. Dripping charisma. That's real confidence. So when you taught Pilates, What kind of music did you play? Because historically, the music is awful. I didn't play music because I did traditional Pilates. So you're saying it was, is that like a bowl? Or is it just silent? Silent. But this is with the reformer or no reformer? No reformer. Oh, so this is Matt Pilates' No Music. Was it in a jungle, or was it like in a cityscape? Yeah, was this in London, the borough? It was inside the Colosseum, actually, just to cycle back to Rome. When Chris said reformer, you kind of had a little bit of a stink on your face. Do you look down on reformer Pilates? No. Be honest, Nina, come on. No, you're lying. It's okay if you do. Why do you look down on that? No, I'm just, I think it's great. I think reformer classes are a little bit hyped. at the moment. So you're saying that a Mac class with you would have my core burning more than any reformer class I could find in Manhattan. If that's... No. If one class with her in the upper side butt would finally get a little come-getter definition. This is me at your class just having to do this because I'm cramping so much. Yeah, standing up. No, no. Yeah, the only guy as well. Weird. That's interesting. How often did you teach hungover? Never. She respects the craft. You respect it too much. I got that. I always wonder. It's like when you find out that you're...

When you get older and you realize that your high school teachers were like 23 and hung over all the time. At the time, they seem so old and mature. I'm a drunk in class. Oh, really? We're going to put on a movie because I want to watch it. This one's good. Exactly that. It's one of my favorites. Well, we should talk about the new record a little bit. We're both loving it. We both have been fans for a while. I DJed Chris's wedding a year ago, year and a half ago, something like that. And what song was it? Was it Punk'd that was on there? It was Punk'd. Well, so we have a curse. I have a curse to borrow Italian stories. I made this giant playlist of songs to be played like we do shows. So, you know, when doors open at seven, before we go on stage at eight, I made this playlist. And the instructions are always put this on shuffle. And I would say eight. Eight times out of ten, they don't do that. And the first song is Bar Italia punked. So I've heard it more times than you have probably at this point. So your last song got played at your wedding. Yeah. That's so sick. It was a reception. I mean, it wasn't like I walked down the aisle to Bar Italia. That's kind of what I was imagining. We're like, can I come inside? No, well, Jason DJed and obviously knows my taste. He opened with Oasis, which really set the tone, and then we kind of went from there. You actually didn't tell us what you thought of that. Oh, of Oasis. Yeah, we went to Wembley on Sunday. Yeah. And we were talking about on the last episode how grateful we are that we got to see them play in Europe because in America, Cage the Elephant is opening for them instead of Richard Ashcroft. Richard Ashcroft. fucking amazing as well richard ashcroft i mean we've both been listening to ashcroft since the fucking i don't know mid 90s probably because we're a little older but yeah i mean it was remarkable show everything about it was amazing just jumping up and down the entire time running all over the place it was just amazing i know a lot of americans who went to the uk ones which explains why no one could get a ticket

They're playing in America right fucking now, and you could be there. I could have gone last night, and I was like, I just don't want to sully my memory. I don't need to go. I don't need to go again. Well, you had tickets, and you didn't go. No, no. I just mean that, like, there's plenty of tickets available in New York and L.A. Like, plenty of tickets available. If you're an influencer kind of person, you can just go. You know, it's not that hard in America. But in London, you know, we had to get a plug and pay, you know, the whole thing. Yeah, the problem is here that, you know, in London, well, here people are waiting in line politely to do, you know, Coke in the bathroom four deep, where in London, you know, they're just doing it right out in the open. Off the back of a bald guy's head in front of you. Yeah. My friend Ollie, who is British and was still scandalized by this, saw a woman pissing in a cup. That's common. and then someone else drunk I think it was lager the whole thing did the woman chuck it though because that's what you're supposed to do you gotta throw it oh I didn't realize okay so you're saying this is this is this like a football thing that I'm not familiar with it's a football thing it's a festival thing so what just explain can a man do it or does it have to be a woman I think the men might have started it it's much easier to piss in a cup for a man I think and you never stop rubbing it in our faces I would finish my lager, pull my hog out, relieve myself into a pint glass, and then throw that glass. What are you going to do, hold your piss? Throw it. No, I'm just saying I would maybe just sit it down and walk away. You can't move, though. You can't just stamp it down. I've never been to a festival that's that packed, bro. And I know your sets ain't like that, so calm down now. Some of their smaller venues get pretty packed out, Chris. Come on. It also depends on how porous the floor is. It's sold out. Is it an outdoor? Is there dirt? Or is it a plastic floor where you're just going to be in your own puddle all day? So you're saying that you've probably in your life been rained down on with urine. No, I know I have.

no i i i refuse to believe that it's happened it's happened to me at festival yeah apparently it's like really good for your skin honestly like i was gonna move into a flat a while ago with someone who who had like a huge gallon of piss in the room because they used to put it on their faces On one face. They only have one face. But actually, they develop multiple faces thanks to the pierce tree. This was for, like, skin care reasons? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it was like, fuck your Korean skin care routine. You just put piss on your face, and that kind of sorts it out. Can I ask? I don't mean to assume. I was going to say, I don't want to assume gender, but was she bad, or how did she look? This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace. Obviously, Jason, you and I spend a lot of time on the World Wide Web, so do our peers, our listeners, our friends, our colleagues, maybe even your parents if they're freaky. And if you're doing anything in the world, writing, taking pictures. I do topless boxing. You need a website. Exactly, a website that works, that does what it's supposed to do, that allows you to be creative but also business-minded. Jason, there's one place to go for that, Squarespace. Yeah, Chris, I'm over here. I'm modifying calculators and putting Claude inside of them so you could cheat at school. And I just want a place where I could, you know, have everything all in one place. I can have the SEO tools so those future graduates can find me. And, you know, I'm able to accept, quote, unquote, donations for my services that might be gray area. You know what I mean? And then email campaigns. Hey, I got a new 2.3 version upgrade. Boom, boom, boom. Get the analytics going. Raise some money. Show your investor all of your cool analytics of what's going on. They're going to want to get in early. And we can use Blueprint AI to make your website look as professional as your competition, if not more.

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Yeah, I mean, I think your piss is only as good as the person that it's coming out of, you know? It's like, I want to make sure it's from a sustainable source. Yeah, piss and sperm are very different. I'm going to say right now that I'm pissing too clean for it to work. Like, it's just straight up water. It's 97% water. Yeah, it wouldn't do anything. I have no... Oh, so you think it's to do with having to be really toxic? I don't know if it's like pure yellow. Yeah, that's the best. so good. Where it looks like a new castle? Yeah, Newcastle Brownell. Well, that's for sure where you get enough festivals, so we'll just make sure to go to enough of that. Like, he's drinking it right now, Jasmine, in fact. It does look, it does look. He fucking can't stop. What is the, so you guys play a lot of festivals though, right? Yeah. I assume. yeah do you like them or are you kind of over it you can be honest but it's like it's like anything like some are good some are shit exactly some are really good when they're good they're really good when they're shit they're really fucking shit yeah yeah that's how often do you get to hang out versus like we gotta go after after we play it really depends from people right they play well so yeah we base it on like who's playing we've had some really fucking good like seeing iggy pop in mexico yeah and paul mccartney and like I mean, we've had some we've had some. Yeah, this is always my favorite because back in the in the hardcore days, you would see like hardcore bands and they would get to say they played with like Morrissey because they played at the same festival. So technically you're like, oh, yeah, we played with McCartney. Yeah, exactly. And you're not lying. It was the Beatles, then Bar Italia. I forgot who else played, but that's pretty much it. Doja Cat. Doja Cat. As well as Doja Cat. Doja Cat is somehow headlining above the Beatles. Doja Cat does sell more tickets than the Beatles now, unfortunately. Imagine we're kicking off that button to play first as well. Yeah, exactly. Well, it's cool that you got to see Iggy Pop live because it's so fucking good. Oh my god. It's amazing. It blows everyone off the stage. Which is incredible. I hope he has some time left. Yeah. He's looking a little crazy. He's going to last a long time. No, don't do that. Don't do that. He's stuck up for us in a big way.

in what sense yeah we had this um really shitty like really early on we played this gig in oxford and it was there was like the times reviewing it and the person was giving like they're not going to go anywhere because we didn't come out for an encore and he was on his shows i have this person's never played a show with the backstage is a bathroom like he likes me like stuck up for us again he got it yeah it was amazing you do a good iggy pop impression by the way jasmine well done i actually do a very good karaoke Jasmine is particularly good. Jasmine and Sam are both particularly good at karaoke, actually. I suck. I am so bad. Yes, I do. You probably have one song that you're good at, though. No. Zero? Zero. No. Okay. What is your song? Maybe you just haven't found your song. What do they do that's so good? Or is it obscure? Or can they hit me with the Goo Goo Dolls? Jasmine is really good at doing Red Hot Chili Peppers and Jeff Buckley. I can rap. I can do late rap. Okay, hold on, hold on. Like Can't Stop Addicted to the Shindig? Oh, that's my jam. That's your sweet spot right there. Red Hot Chili Peppers and Jeff Buckley is quite wise. Well, that's the kind of artist you're confronted with right now. Your range, your range. But I mean, the guitar of Frusciante as well as the guitar of Buckley. Those swimming together? Yeah, I do air guitar, actually. I do air guitar. Yeah, Jason, I don't want to ruin your fun here, but he's not having to play that, though. That's the thing. He just has to sing. Maybe you don't know how karaoke works. Even though you know salsa dancing, you might have missed that on karaoke. I've never seen Jason do karaoke. I don't think we've ever done karaoke before. I would do Solitary Man. Is that Leonard Cohen? And then November Rain. Those are my two. But November Rain, it's like half the crowd is like, hell yeah, I love it. And the other half are like, did you have to pick an eight? to nine minute song with like four bridges can you do it acapella like right now do we have time nine minutes yeah let me get a click track pulled up on ableton here i want to hear the whole slash solo in the rain he hasn't had enough newcastle to perform that but i remember being a kid watching that video where the the the had the little mirrored coffin with his wife's face on there solo in the rain

That's when a boy became a man. I said, I'm going to choose rock and roll. I remember actually me and Nina sitting and watching the whole of that video on my laptop. It's like, this is sick. Look at this. This is sick. It is sick. It's just plain old sick. You guys are wrong. That's one of the worst things that we've ever seen. Easily one of the worst bands we've ever encountered as a human people. I do like the way Slash looks. Yeah. I think it's an iconic, he is an iconic figure in music and I will never take it away from him. Look, we don't want to hear it, Chris. Don't try to, don't patronize us. We know you're a GNR hater. Yeah, exactly. There's a really good video where he shows all of his guitars to Gibson. He's like, this one's called Choline. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he Oh, all the guitars are just named after women? This one's called Dumb Bitch. It's not even that far off. This one's called Dumb Bitch. Hey, tune up Dumb Bitch for me. Speaking of priceless guitars, I would say that the new album sounds more expensive than your previous releases. Got your little money up. Was it more expensive? Yeah. But it's not art. Of course, of course, of course. I still think it's art. I mean, I'm happy there's a natural progression in production quality where, you know, I was listening to it and I was like, this is a real, you know, there's no corners being cut. No, like, it could be better. It was just like, this sounds as good as it could sound. Yeah, I think the best thing about that album for me is the fact that a lot... of the songs, if not all the songs, feel quite resolved. Yeah. Because it felt like we did it through a longer period of time than previous work. And I'm really happy with the fact that I'm not saying that every song has to be your favorite, but it feels like you've kind of got out a lot of the pulp. I think resolved is the perfect word for it. I was listening to the new Blood Orange record yesterday, and I was like, this is a good...

collection some of them could be demos still and some of them are ideas that maybe are not yeah resolved yeah i quite you know it doesn't mean they're bad yeah there was a lot of work also like bits being rewritten and like between sam and jesmy on guitar and like there was like a care span to try and like actually just get there rather than just leave things in potential which i think it's really it's it was really exciting like you could like you can tell like it's like you if you listen when i listen to stuff we've done in previous years like i feel like i'm like oh she's done that note there do you know what i mean yeah i still have that about these things and i would yeah for sure like resolve some of them because that would be that's a good problem to have you you have a you're a perfectionist you have your eye on the prize yeah i think this is the first time we've actually managed to actually like do things we feel like they're not they're not perfect we had the time we had the time to do it like does me like we didn't before and like i think the urgency well the urgency is still there and now you can feel it within the record like it's not polished in the way that other things can be polished obviously still ours but I think it was nice to have a stint of recording then a lot of mums kind of touring and doing all the festivals which are like as you said like really challenging and like you learn how to be quite You learn how to play together in a totally different way than in a headlining show, for example. It has to really work between you on stage to make it work for an audience that you kind of have to win over at times. And then going back with that knowledge and just refining and shedding things away. We basically had an editing process. Chris, who are we talking to where they said that they'll write a song? And then tour it and play it. Jarvis Cocker. Yeah, Jarvis Cocker was talking about that. They'll write a song and then tour it for a year. The crowd will tell you, change that part. This is the good part. That's the root of the song. I don't think you should personally. Nothing against Jarvis. I don't think you should be like, you shouldn't.

That's like fucking writing a song on AI. Well, fuck the audience. That's what I always say. I don't give a fuck what these losers think as long as they give me their money. No, it's not that. You should have some integrity in your own belief in what you think. I think more what he was trying to express was that it would sort of reassure his impulses that were already there. Like maybe that part felt kind of weak and the crowd responded. appropriately so i knew that i should go that that makes a lot of sense to me yeah exactly i think we've had that ourselves as well like we haven't really played any of the songs that we had written in like january feb or yeah january february during the festival season but we i think it's more about what jasmine was saying in terms of like Like learning how to switch on and learning how to play together, which meant that the second time that we were in the studio, Sam and Jasmine and me, I like I found like a certain synchronicity in performing, which meant that that got translated into the writing because also like recording and writing for us is often kind of simultaneous. Like we don't really have a writing period and then a recording period. Yeah, we do at the same time. yeah we tend to do it quite at the same time and we like to start building songs quite quickly and then kind of maybe deconstruct it from there rather than just um working with engineers this time made a huge difference oh my god yeah engineers do seem like as long as you get one that you can trust important part of the recording process yeah yeah yeah for sure instead of us just running around do you guys record all of your parts at the same time or do you do them separately in separate rooms we we build things like we build things on the computer Do you know what I mean? Yeah. There's a couple of instances where we have room recordings. We might write at the same time. Yeah. There's a few bits in Twits, Jasmine. That's true. That's true. And actually also in the new record in the, I don't know what's it called, Plastered. There's one of the new songs.

that has like a live recording layer underneath or it was written kind of live. There's also a couple of times we tried to do it, but then we never made it. Can you explain to me what you mean by build it on the computer? You mean you all record your parts and then you put them together? Or you're saying there's a different method that I don't understand? Produce. You're treating the recording as if you are a producer. Okay. Instead of like three people in a room jamming out, he's looking at it on like a linear scale of like, here's the this and this, and then we need a here and a hi-hat there kind of thing. What software do you use when you're doing it? I just want to use Pro Tools, but previously used Logic and Ableton. Yeah, this time Pro Tools. Why'd you switch? Do you think it sounds better? Engineers were using Pro Tools. Yeah, they all just use it. Yeah. I quite like the interface. I quite like how it looks. It's famously disgusting, Nina. Well known that it's disgusting. It's honestly my most favorite interface. That's so funny. You're just saying aesthetically it's pleasing to you. Yeah, because that's as far as my engineering capacity goes. You're judging it. You call us the rainbow. It's a rich tradition. I see what you're saying. It feels professional. It feels like a tool that real people use versus Ableton looks like a toy in comparison. It's more exciting but less serious. Logic's the ugliest for me. It's just GarageBand with a few extra hundred dollars on top of it. Yeah, exactly. Jasmine, do you use Ableton to build like... remixes and little, like, Jamie XX-y, dance-y kind of things on the side? I studied that, but I don't really do that now. What do you mean you studied it? You went to Jamie XX College, or you're saying you just... Yeah, I suckled from the teat of Charlie XX. Oh, you're saying that you taught yourself, but you don't do it. Look, we made a lot of the early music on Ableton. I did go to university. Did you? And you finished? Fuck no. Okay. I was about to say, you seem cooler than that. Thank you.

Oh, I finished university. What are you trying to say? It's different. The pressures for women are so different. You know, I just the patriarchy. It just fucks everything up. I tell you what. What is it? What did you go to school for? Both of you. Now that now that I Pilates. No, shut up. That's not that's not. I had a fucking BA. Yeah, I had a BA in Pilates. I bet I know a chick who has a BA in Pilates. I bet I know somebody somewhere that would say that. PhD, actually. You finished, though, so you have a degree in what? History of art. Okay, all right. That's one of the better things to go to college for. Is it? Exactly. Actually, why am I asking? Well, even though it's useless, at least it's cool. Yeah, it's one of the hottest degrees. Yeah. OK, I'm glad. I'm glad. Thank you, guys. Feel better. Especially when you walk, when you go around Rome, you're like, yeah, I know you can give a tour. Oh, man, it was like it was like post-structuralist like London. So it was not about history of art. It was about being a game. What about you? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sound arts and design. Okay. So, I mean, that's reasonable. Yeah. Like, your movement, Jasmine, is making me want to squeeze my tits. I'm like, maybe I should start doing that. It's like a lymphatic drainage thing. It actually is. I was doing that for that reason. You're, like, just releasing, like, pecs. Are you feeling sore from your workout this morning? Yeah. I actually am a little bit sore. How many push-ups can you do? I can do, currently, at least 100 normal ones. Okay. I can do 10 in a row claps. Nice. Ten clappers. That's impressive. I got to say I'm impressed because you look like a little twig through the Zoom, but maybe you've got something underneath that. It's a fish eye. It's a fish eye lens. I can do two at night. I feel like you could get to 100. Because what's your workout routine on the road? Nothing? Eating. That's not true. That's not true. You do hit the gym. I try. I try. I put loads of weight on the last tour in America. Well, those American portions. Don't blame America.

Water's got fat in it, for fuck's sake. Hey, you can get the fuck out of here with that. You can leave right now. I'll call DEI on your ass. When we were writing the Twits, when we were writing the Twits, Jasmine was on some army workout routine. Oh. Every day. So now you like the army, but you don't like America. That's interesting. I don't like your fucking army. I like good armies. The British Royal Army. The good ones. Good armies. I like the good armies. You're out of your mind. okay so you're doing like a crossfit caveman military style thing going on oh yeah oh yeah no we all play football on tour okay oh yeah we play football all the time every day who's nasty with it uh sam and jesney are really good and plays sam plays a lot these days what do you guys do you guys play in like leagues when you're home and stuff sam plays like four games a day wow Sam gets psycho with it. We're a bit obsessive. I don't understand, though. That's a hard thing to do, I guess, on the road. It doesn't seem like the most practical exercise. Well, no, because there's, like, car parks. We play, like, keep you up ease. Oh, okay. I got you. Oh, God. This is getting so unglamorous. Like, you don't need to know. Sorry. Well, I'm actually kind of, like, I'm advertising our needs, Nina. If someone takes a football match. No, I'm joking. I'm just saying, like, Don't think of us in splitter vans in car parks. Sure. I'll think of you. Much better. Much better, Lance. Yeah, and all the private planes that you take. Yeah, exactly. Those private gigs in Saudi Arabia. Exactly. Yeah, I want to pee. I'm going to PJ every day. Yeah, we play football on planes. Oh, I see. Your plane is so big that you can play keepy-uppies on the plane. I see. Exactly. I'm sorry. I misunderstood. I apologize. It's okay. It's okay. Okay, so are you guys going to come to America? When are you guys going to come for... What are you talking about? We are in America. They're in New York right now. We came to America. We still got to fucking do this on Zoom. Yeah, we don't do this in person because it's too much work. Are you here just on a press tour or are you doing shows as well? Yeah. We're just in press. Okay. Just to impress, what bullshit are you doing? Because this is kind of the end in the beginning. It's the end of the road. Yeah, I mean, rollingstone.com. I mean, that's a paywall. You know what I mean? Rolling Stone counts for that. We actually have an exhibition on Friday of drawings. This gallery called Trieste Gallery. Oh.

in Brooklyn. Who did the drawings? We all did. We did. The whole band. Yeah, we all separately drew. Oh, so they're not, okay, so everybody did their own, but they're, okay, I guess. Okay, I'm looking at more drawings by Baratalia. Exactly. RSVP required. I mean, that's not true. I mean, yeah, do it, do it, do it. Someone texted me earlier and be like, I got the ticket to your show and I was like, You don't need a ticket. We're not performing, just to be clear. This is in Ridgewood. Oh, I'm sorry. I can't make it there. I know, I know. 476 people have RSVP'd to look at a collection of your drawings. Yeah. That's impressive. How about that? That's a really good feeling. Are they for sale? Yeah. All proceeds go to charity. What charity are they going to? No, we can't talk about it. No comment. Okay. Harry Styles. Okay, to get rid of Harry's little mullet, we're raising money in Ridgewood. That's brave of you. It's like a GoFundMe on Ryanair flights for Harry Styles. Okay, so do you guys know anything about Ridgewood? It's just like, it's not as cool as where we're at right now. No, no, no, it is. Isn't that Queen's? It's kind of like Queen's. Is it? Yeah, I think Queens is cool. It's very cool. Maybe I'm not going to go. No, Queens is cool. I'll probably just pass on this one. I'll just stay in Williamsburg. I'm all set. It's fine. It's fine, Jason. Ridgewood is for young people, and that's where all the raves happen. That's exciting. I think I've been there once, but it takes quite a long time to get there. But it's the epicenter. The type of person that's going to attend a collection of your drawings. This is the epicenter of where they're going to live. What is that? I honestly don't appreciate this facetious tone every time you have to say our drawings. Like, I'm not sure you understand. Sam's a fucking trained, like, literally trained. I'm not sure you understand. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Like, my drawings are shoes. I've done just really bad drawings of Brian Jones.

Actually, Loki's spoiling. I'm not questioning the quality of the artwork whatsoever. You are. You are in your tone. Okay. I felt it. I don't want to pick sides, Jason, but I felt it. Chris felt it. Chris felt it. He's not sticking out for you, so that means it's true. It's something that I have to work on. I personally have to apologize. Yeah, I would like to see one of your drawings. Do you have a drawing? Shut up. Don't get into it. Jason's a former graffiti artist, so he's nasty. I did not draw this, but... My wife had a security guard draw an impression of me. Oh, my God. I forgot about that. Why don't you give us a drawing to show to our exhibition? We don't need to sell it. Yeah, Jason, can you overnight one of your graffiti black book sketches? Yeah. Yeah, I got you. I'll do a graffiti of some shoes. Really? No, I think you should do Bar Italia and Bubble. That's great. Oh, that's a good idea. Something nice. That would be, like, we could literally show it. in the gallery. Okay. With your name, with your name and stuff. Sure, of course. We would never. You wouldn't want credit for his art is what you're saying. No, no, no. Of course. Okay. I just want to be clear. Yeah, exactly. I think that's really awesome of you guys. And what is that charity again that it's going for? No comment. That's going to be, that's fine. So you guys are basically in New York to turn up and do a little bit of shit like this is what it sounds like to me. I'm here to make trouble. Are you partying? Look at me. I'm not. I'm fresh like a rose. Nina's fresh. Who slept more last night? I slept eight hours. That's nice. Eight hours. That's strong for a musician. I'm surprised. And you were somewhere in Dime Square until 5 a.m. last night, Jasmine? Is that what happened? It was a Monday. I was walking around the street having a fake argument with my girlfriend. Just to live it. Just to feel something. We've all been there, brother. To feel like you're on HBO's Girls? Exactly. It's because it's like a new, very beautiful relationship, so you have to prove yourself. That makes it more of a relationship, if you have an idea. How new is the relationship? A month. Oh, wow. I've got her name titled on me already. She's sick. I only met her yesterday, but she's very stylish. I think she knows you guys, actually.

Oh, this is an interesting wrinkle. Please, we can... We'll bleep her name. Can we see this tattoo? Yeah, but only if you don't say it. They definitely say it. Jason is such a... No, no, no, no, no, no. We won't, we won't. We bleep stuff all the time. Have respect for her. What's your star sign, Jason? Virgo. Virgo gang. Oh! Are you Virgo as well, Chris? Yeah, hell yeah. Oh, shut up. What does it say? I can't... Hold on. Oh, I knew it. I knew it. What does it say, Jason? Oh, no. Oh, no. It's Chris. Actually, Jasmine's girlfriend is Chris. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm going to text her. Jasmine and Chris are going out. Chris, I know you're married, so this is a bit weird. She's fine. Yeah, but she's fine when it's with guys. It's all good. Hold on. Am I on your list? I'm going to text your significant other now and tell her to leave you alone. You're a nice guy. You don't deserve this. You don't deserve all this. Debbie has a guitar called Dumb Bitch, and that's you, Chris. This generation slash, many are saying. Okay, let's go back, circle back to your thoughts on the Virgo sign. Is this a yay or a nay? I felt some negativity there. No, no. I love Virgo. Sam is Virgo, but it's Virgo Leo slightly. He's on the cusp. I'm full Virgo. Full Virgo. Yeah. Yeah, Virgo's great. Virgo's great. The attention to detail, perfectionists. Okay. Say no more. You could say bad stuff about Virgos too. You don't have to just reach. Do you have bad experiences with our ilk? No. Honestly, if it wasn't for Sam and Jasmine, half of my life wouldn't exist. I owe it to Burgos. How did you... Wait, did you guys meet... Did I read that you guys were like neighbours? Yeah. We had mutual friends. I mean, that's a very romantic idea. It's like Rapunzel vibe. The way me and you actually met is incredibly romantic. Yeah, that's true. That is true. It was like we were going out for a party and we had a really awkward conversation. We had a get to know you conversation while Nina was like...

on my butt in the basket of my bike wow it's like how many siblings have you got wow so what instrument do you play i'm also like queen of awkwardness so i was like how many siblings do you have that's it no that's in a basket look we have to ask dumb questions that's our job so that's not even crazy at all to us that's fine yeah but we weren't facing each other like he was trying not to crash i could have also just so this is like a love is blind kind of thing you couldn't see each other's faces you just had to get to Back of your head. Yeah, pretty much. So, what kind of food do you like to eat? Yeah, literally. Are you gluten intolerant? Yeah, what's your dietary kind? What kind of food do you like to eat? Do you like food? You like food? Do you watch the telly sometimes? I do too. But Sam introduced me to Jasmine and then nothing happened for a while. Me and Sam met an open mic night. Yeah, you actually met through music. kind of straight away. What the fuck were you doing? What were you doing an open mic night, Chief? Give me a breakdown. I was looking for an excuse to get away from my ex. Sure. You're saying your relationship was so bad that you had to go cover Michelle and Deggio Ocello by yourself at a bar? He was singing Red Hot Chili Peppers. It was in Hackney Wick, yeah. That's why it's so good. Okay, do you remember what songs you were covering? I was playing my own songs. Honestly, Sam said that he's so kinship musically and then they started talking, right? And then I went to watch Sam play the next time and then we started seeing each other at parties all the time. Were you in bands? But you've been in bands before or no? Yeah, me and Sam had both separately been in bands before. I've never. Baritalia was my first band. I don't think that's true neither. What? The Zumba. Oh, but that wasn't a band. Zumba. Nina, I feel like you could have some weird history where you were like on who's got talent Italy. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, she low-key. No, I wish. She went pretty far in Eurovision when she was 12.

I could see you being like, well, I had one album. It was a one-album deal with a major. I wish. I honestly wish. It makes sense for you to never have been in another band before. It just feels right for your overall spirit and aura. Do you think this is your calling? Do you think music has... Have you found yourself? Or is it like a surprise? I mean, I've wanted this life my whole life and gave up on it and it happened. I'm incredibly blessed. Oh, that's nice. That's a good story. I like that. Yeah, I was having a conversation once with Desmi and we just had released Quarrel and where Desmi was like really sad talking about wanting to be a musician. And I remember me being quite optimistic about it and be like, it's never, never say never. It will happen. You just need to keep going. It was like, and then it happened. Yeah. And then I quit my job and then things fell into place. Yeah. Sometimes you got to go whole, you got to jump off the ledge, you know? Do you think it's your calling, Nina? I honestly. She's like, I'll give it another year and then I think I'm done with you guys. I don't know. I don't know what my calling is. I don't think I have. I know. I didn't know. I didn't know how much I would like it. And then I did it. And then I think writing and singing and I love writing. I've always written poems. Like all my life I've written. So that was definitely something. And then I'm never happier than when I make music. So I think in that sense. Well, then, yeah, it is. Yeah, you answered. Yeah, but it wasn't like, it's not like Jasmine. I was like dreaming to be a musician. It kind of happened to me. Which kind of fits with how my life works. I often feel like that, even in relationships sometimes. I'm just not that aligned with what sometimes happens to me. I'm just looking at something and then something else happens. But you can go with it, which is a skill in itself. Yeah, I think in that sense, yeah, I'm quite brave. And you are an incredibly optimistic person, so you do fall into things a lot because of your outlook. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, that's true. And also, I think I work hard. So even if I didn't know how to sing, I'm learning. But you had sang before or not even at all? Like in the shower? No, I started singing. I released my first song with Dean Blunt in 2014. Okay, okay. And that was the first time I sung. Okay. As in my own song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not just in the shower. I honestly came to it quite late. Yeah, no, it's cool. It gives me hope as a person who the only thing I think is cool is being a musician, but I have no skills. So it's a little tough. It's tough for me. But, you know, maybe one day. There's always management. played the piano when i was little so i could i could i'm too big to ride in a basket on a bike so that kind of fucks up my whole that whole thing is kind of out the window as we need a new meet cute okay last question we always ask this is to cool people in bands you don't have to answer if you don't want to top five prescription drugs of all time oh god um ibuprofen paracetamol okay they slap Anti-medicine. Yeah, Nina's anti-prescription. I think anything on the Bayer catalogue? Yeah, can I say like, so, oregano oil. Yeah, let's get a holistic version. Top five food is medicine. Ginger, propolis, magnesium. I'm really pro zinc right now. Oh, yeah. It's because of your cum. Yeah, exactly. I'm feeling like more of a man than I am. Have you noticed a difference in your cum? Actually. Yeah. Actually, yes. Okay. Oh, God. Do you know how many milligrams of Z are you taking? And you're shooting better ropes as well, Nina? That's what I hear? Yeah. Congratulations. Yeah.

It's pretty. We need to start doing ads for fucking zinc on this podcast. We can move a million. I'm just saying he's tasty. I'm just saying he's very tasty. This is the best and worst episode of How Long Gone ever recorded. I can't believe how much fun I've had in the last hour. Yeah, because people talk a lot about how the zinc makes you have more cum. They don't talk about how it becomes much more tasty. And you would never think that zinc would increase. Of all things. Because zinc on its own doesn't taste great in my experience. Yeah, that's true. Okay. The oregano oil also adds to a little bit of the rustic flavor as well. Why do you take oil of oregano? No, I don't take it. I don't take it every day. But every time I'm a bit sick, I just take it and then it just zaps it. Did I tell you, Nina? Oh, my God. I could hear you. Did you hear me? I could hear you across the wall. I was laughing so much. Me and Nina were in hotel rooms next to each other. in spain the other day and i was feeling a bit sick so she gave me some like and was like smiling in like a really fucking evil way like like when you've like put too much weed in a bong for someone like and i just immediately threw it up all over yeah it was coughing it was i was i put three drops and i was supposed to put just one and it was like coughing so much It was quite funny. That's how you know it works. It's like smelling salt. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It destroys you. It works. All right. Thank you, guys. We really appreciate it. All right. I'm glad you liked the album. I'm sorry we didn't talk that much. That's okay. We don't want to hear about it. We'd rather listen to it. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Yeah, it's really good. Congratulations on a job well done. Thank you. It's called Stum Like It Hot, and it comes out October 17th. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I think so. Y'all don't know shit about shit. All right. Great. Thank you, guys, for joining us. We'll see you soon. Thank you. Bye bye. Ciao ciao.

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