419. - Chris & Jason

All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week, Jason. Does that sound familiar to you? We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcast. or watch on YouTube. How Long Gone is here. I'm Jason. That's Chris recording live uncut from Glendale. Kind of the ashes of the GQ man of the year party are starting to finally settle. I just got my windows tinted for an early Christmas present this weekend. Jason thinks he's more important than he is, and he shouldn't be recognized when he's going to a Whole Foods in the suburbs, but I'm glad that you're worried about those thugs running up on you. It has nothing to do with thuggery. It was literally on Friday when I was not feeling super well after drinking a lot. And, yeah, we got so drunk at the after party for that that we got in a fight over something very funny. Okay, so you're saying at over 40, you and your wife-to-be got into a fight due to alcohol consumption. You don't say. That is correct. This is when I go back to the fact that cocaine is just necessary. You know what I mean? Honestly, it would have straightened us right out. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes you need RIP takeoff. You need a straightener. RIP takeoff. Yeah, I mean, cocaine is literally the hand that reaches into the bog of quicksand. Yes. And it's about to take you. And pulls you right back out. It says, come on back in, brother. It says, you can drive home. Come on back in, brother. We should start a restaurant, brother. You can drive home. It's no problem. Yeah, you can totally drive. I feel totally fine. I feel totally fine. The valet, it's right here.

One eye open. Yeah, well, I'll mark that, that we should tell that story later. But no, like the next day, she was just like, I'll get your windows tinted for one of your Christmas presents. And I'm like, all right, all right, sounds cool. And then I hit up Vic, our driver, and he's like, this is not bad. Yeah, Vic, if I need to buy an unlicensed 9mm, I need to get the windows tinted, or I need to get something, just a general threat. Kind of handled. I feel like Vic could do that. He's not going to hurt anyone. No. He's got some guys that could kind of talk to you sternly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No body shots. No bruises. No, no, no. No phones. No, you know, put a mask on or whatever. Put on your shysty. Yeah. Put on my Bodhi, Baklava X, Dover Street. Baklava is, yeah. Now, anytime I see people wearing those in the. like post-covid society i'm just like oh this is a robber it doesn't like now not in a post-covid society in all societies for you this is a this is a bit that i've worked on forever that has no thing like nobody nobody buys nobody has bought a ski mask for skiing since 1978 that's only it's like it's like spray paint like One person a year buys spray paint for a non-graffiti application. Obviously, you're not associating with quite as many ski and snowboard enthusiasts as I am, where that could come into play. No, I follow a lot of snowfluencers on Instagram, and I see a lot of hats. I see a lot of goggles, but I don't see a lot of... So you're saying you would mix the Volcom flat brim beanie with the Gucci goggles and be all set for the mountain. Okay, so you don't need... I mean, I understand that. I'm just saying that, yeah, they are for doing crime, but I'm saying we went through a phase where everyone was covering their face in, unfortunately, creative ways that were...

I just want to say this now. I think you like that rebellious spirit, though. No, I think all the people that made creative masks their personalities, I bet they tried to forget about it, but I am never going to let you forget how corny you were. Well, I agree. I think that when people wear the balaclava, just the Nike balaclava on the head, and they have sauce to it, then it's cool and it looks good. But when you have the honky guy who's got the fucking stars and bars, Punisher skull, What's that called? The gator. The gator. The gator is just like a racist balaclava. There's nothing more white than wearing the camo gator to go into the fucking 7-Eleven, keeping it upright below your eyes. All the non-racist members of special teams, forces, blue seals, baby seals. Those don't exist. Seal team six, green braids. When they first started wearing those... gators uh-huh which i don't love that name because it's spelled with a d isn't it or a t i think it's g-a-i-t-e-r-s you know what i mean i think i think at one point they're like we need this gator because we're about to infiltrate an isis stronghold and we mustn't be identified and it was just a plain one maybe it'll have your unit number on there but then all these racist fuckers This is what happens. Sometimes... Get a Baltimore Orioles gator and fuck it all up for everyone. Sometimes people steal the swag and don't use it for good, Jason. How about this one? The balaclava, the Nike balaclava, the... We call it the Bobby Schmurter over here, but that's fine. How about this? What if it was involving a more millennial forward color? A peach... a canary yellow okay so you want to take all right so you want to i think the fact that it's just like all black yeah you want to go audrey gelman on these hoes and give it a wing style look makeover i don't know i mean there's a lot of colors out there and when you see damn bro that's crazy you're right there are a lot of colors out there bro you're such a fucking criminals often like to wear criminals and people that work on stage productions you have to sort of wear you're all black

We allow our crew on How Long Gone Tour to wear whatever color they feel expresses their personality. The fuck we do. Stage blacks or you take a walk. Them black 501s better be tailored too, bro. I don't want to see you in some little... Not the faded ones either. Crispy new shit. No vintage over here. Yeah, so get it. I mean, just a nice cream. You know, a nice eggshell. Well, I think the problem is with that, because it's so close to your nasty mouth, it could, some staining could happen. I think black is the most, you know what I mean? I might get some of my June shine, rosemary, Meyer lemon around the mouth hole. I know that you could get – yeah, you could get some of your – A little bit of that Polynesian sauce. Yeah, when you get – when you spill kombucha on your Nike Gator, it is not – that smell is not coming out. Well, I guess we're going home now. You got it. You got it. God damn it, babe. I've been waiting all week to go to Home Depot and now you spilled your fucking – That's when babe says, well, you brought an extra, didn't you? Yeah, you got it. I told you you should always bring it. If you start introducing those colors, you're going to have to sell them in three packs, which could cut into your margins. Oh, damn. Well, let's get Calvin on the horn. Yeah, for sure. Well, yeah, we did. We had a big week of events and activations. I'm feeling like a shell of myself, and I didn't even drink. So I can only imagine how bad your ass is feeling, Jason. I feel about as good as me. Just, you know, all the stuff about me, my age, my height, my weight, my overall nutrition and physical level. Throw 11 vodka sodas on. No, is it vodka or tequila? Throw seven vodka sodas and five tequila sodas on there. Shake well. You're shaking out. Your insides are all mucked up, that's for sure. But I think that the GQ Man of the Year party was something to behold. And I think that my major takeaway from the event is the...

insane mix of celebrities from all different disciplines and walks of life coming together at the beautiful Ian Schrager-designed West Hollywood edition to celebrate Brendan Fraser and an F1 guy and Zoe Kravitz, who is a woman. Don't forget about Pusha T. Well, Pusha T just won big fit of the night. He wasn't a man of the year. Yeah. I don't want to get you confused with some of the awards. But he was being celebrated that night, though. He was being celebrated. And let's not forget, in front of the show, The Kid Leroy. Honestly, he was the coolest person there. I went from being a Kid Leroy, not whatever the opposite of a sympathizer is, to being like, okay, you're the only person at this party who I like. The Kid Leroy in full Balenciaga playing acoustic to a room of people who didn't care. uh and pulling it off is tough and he sounded he sounded good honey in his voice he sounded good fucker i mean that's what happens when you're a 19 year old australian you know and your chick's got 5 million followers on tiktok you know life is good oh yeah we went out to go smoke a cig while they were in the backstage ready to go on which was just the sidewalk on on sunset boulevard and i did we didn't know who they were i was like i've seen these oh i know who it was him it was curwin Kerwin, our boy Kerwin, friend of the show, Kerwin Big Adidas. Another person who I went from being a Kerwin hater, not a hater, but just like the, really? I feel like, did he get canceled or something like that? Did he touch some chick? I don't know. But whatever, that is in the past, and he's fallen into my good graces. I'm a Kerwin fan now. I, unfortunately, will still make fun of everything he makes, but also I am a fan. It's confusing for me. But the Kid Leroy, and he had a guitar player who's one of those kind of like, guys that i recognize because he looks stupid but then it's also i think he he's dating or did date like addison ray you know so he's he's doing pretty well for himself considering he looks like a like he looks like a 13 year old goth daughter he looks like a 13 year old goth daughter but he also looks like he found out about kurt cobain six months ago and was just like bro i need a mohair cardigan with a hole in it stat you know um

But they sounded fucking good. I got to give it to them. They sounded great. And that's an almost impossible kind of setting for a performer to do a good job in. No one is paying attention to you. You're not loud enough because you have to do it. You can't bring your whole band because no one's going to pay you that much and there's not enough space. So it's a very difficult thing to pull off. And I have to give a shout out. Kid Leroy wearing full Balenciaga. It looked like it was 14 sizes too big for his little ass. It worked perfectly. He looked good. He looked good. They were my best dressed at the party. Oh, wow. I didn't think about my best dressed. But you know who I was really... Nobody was dressed well at that party, including me. I mean, I think... No offense to everyone there. No, I think people overall looked cool. I just think that there's no like... When it goes that route, I think it's just like wear a suit. Chloe Bailey. I think you should just wear a suit and look. And I think, unfortunately, people try to get creative. That's when Terry Crews pulls out the cream overcoat with the hunter turtleneck. Yeah, exactly. Honestly, when I saw Will post the picture of the four guys that work at GQ, I was like, damn, these guys actually look the best because they're just wearing different versions of suits that fit them well. They're not trying to wear a fur. Sam Hines is always going to be the best dressed person at the party. That's the problem. So Jason and I were able to... Walk the red carpet, and we were directly behind a friend of the show, Travis Barker, and his beautiful blushing bride, Kourtney Kardashian. They almost smiled once. They almost smiled, but what we saw that maybe you guys didn't get to see at home following along on Instagram or GQ.com is that Travis walked the red carpet in a jacket that had a train, a long train. Oh, yeah. It was a six-footer. The kind of thing that if Jason and I were friends with him, we would have picked it up in a joking way and walked down the red carpet, and that photo would have gone viral. But since we're not friends with him, if I did kind of even go down to try and lift up the train as a friend or as a joke, I'm assuming a sniper on the roof of the Sofitel would put a red dot on me. Courtney's security would have pistol-whipped you and kind of dragged you out of there. We wouldn't have gotten our photo taken. But you told me.

that you found out that this look of travis's had a name well this could someone sent me a dm i don't remember i got a lot of them but there was it was a friend of the show or a listener and they just replied to the because i posted a picture of kind of the back of his head zoomed in yeah and it looked like it was just this big giant fur coat and then this goofy head covered in tattoos like he's in a fucking lowrider club and not Bro, don't come for Mr. Cartoon like that, bro. Do not do that. No, I'm saying it looks normal. Dr. Wu listens to this show. Travis's head would look normal on Mr. Cartoon or anybody who has those things, not a white guy from Fresno. Bro, he still has more 64 Impalas that can jump than you do. That's a good point, but it's stolen Cholo Valor. 100% stolen Cholo Valor. and all edgars assemble take his little ass down his last name is barker no travis hey barker and you know who else was with him his his son landon was walking the carpet little twink uh he looked cute he was the hottest chick there he looked good oh yeah so i took a picture of that and he had blah blah blah and then somebody replied replied to that story and they just said travel anche And I was like, I hope you're referring to this as the train that he's wearing. Yeah, it's a travel ant. It's a black diamond mountain of fur that kind of cascades down to the floor of the Edition Hotel. So it was us, Third Mike, 5-Yo Foreign. So it was Travis and Courtney, 5-Yo, me, Jason. Kazzy David, Rachel Sennett. That's the line. And Fabio's first AD. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fabio's team was there. Fabio is now bidding to be, he said he wanted to be the third best friend in this crew. It was his exact words to me. I love seeing, every time we see Fabio for it, I feel like it's like the rule of threes. I've seen him out twice already, and the third time he will actually remember me.

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The party is – it really is everyone – Well, let's not skip all the red carpet stuff, Chris. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to keep moving. When you approach the check-in desk, they give you a black card or a white card, and the black card means you're welcome to – This is a yin and yang situation. You're welcome to please enjoy the party, the open bar, and there are some – our friends over at Smart Water, of course, they did a great job providing – hydration to the whole crowd. Thank you to Jennifer Aniston and her whole team for kind of keeping me hydrated. Yeah, and you can kind of go to all the areas inside the party that you kind of want to if you have the black card. But there's one area you can't go to if you're given the cursed black card. If you have the white card, then you're allowed to walk the red carpet. I wouldn't say allowed. I would say invited to. I think is a nicer way to put it. With open arms. With open arms. Please come through until you meet the security guards guarding that. And then it's a little less lenient. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they did not love the idea of a plus one. I don't know who over there at the GQ Corporation, who over there at Condé, fumbled this bag and only failed, or I guess they failed to give you the white card and they failed to have your name. pre-printed out of all the people as the person who orchestrated our invite to this party oh it's sweet irony and this is it is classic sweet irony i was unfortunately not invited to touch the black carpet in my tom brown uh cut off yeah black tie look and you're clam diggers and we just decided like and we tried to explain to them they're like yeah sorry I was a little less spirited in that because I was already kind of holding the webcam. I only tried once. I was like, I think there's a mistake. It's like when you go to the Delta and you have first class and your chick does it. You're like, is there anything we can do? No? Okay. I tried, baby. I'm sorry. After 9-11, what can you really do? They said it's not possible. They said it's not possible. They said take off your shoes. Make those three bags. We need those to be two. But I was determined.

to do this with Jason. So we did, we just, we walked up and cooler heads prevailed. The amount of times that we had to say that Chris said that we're partners and we have to walk the red carpet together. The best part was that these guys are just like, Dude, I don't know who either of you fucking idiots are. Like, I don't, it's just no sweat off my back. Honestly, I'm surprised that any of you are even talking to me right now. Yeah, the vibe was definitely like, I don't want to hear you explain this because I don't care. Just go. It's too, because the thing is, is that I think that it would have, there was a big line in the emails leading up to the event about like, no publicist. Like no, you can't, you're plus one, you're, you're, you're, whoever you bring. Fabio said what? You can't bring a publicist. He showed up to six guys. He doesn't care. It's like you can't bring your publicist because I think that the vibe at these events sometimes can be celebrities and publicists on their phones, which obviously isn't the best vibe. Yeah, we want people to mix and mingle and make a new friend. It's like, hey, here's 11 women that Hasan Minhaj and James Blake can have sex with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you'll introduce each other, and it's a whole nice little thing. Hasan Minhaj, unfortunately, worse dressed. One of. Yeah, he was kind of looking like a nutcracker, but he was the only, not the only, but one of the few people that I spoke with. And then dapped him up because his last special was say what you want about him. He's like a nice, talented, normal person. I feel like he came there alone. I think he did come there alone, yeah. Which is a power move. Yeah, he's obviously probably a Lyft pink member. Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get some free upgrades. He saved plenty that night. But the mix of celebrity from, like I look over and it's trippy red. Polo G, and Moneybagg Yo, and they all have camera guys, and they're just smoking blunts with sunglasses on. And then it's Pierce Brosnan, his two gay sons, Brendan Fraser, and Maggie Rogers. I'm like, this is a lot of mixture. I think that's kind of the fun of it. I agree. It was honestly staggering, the amount of high, just all over the place.

And then it's like, you know, I'm seeing, I meet, I'm talking to Jesse from the neighborhood and he introduced me to some guy. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy wearing this little suit with his little mustache? And yesterday I click on his name. I'm like, oh, it's John C. Reilly's son. You know, it's that, it's that, that is, nothing makes it more Hollywood than me meeting like five guys who I don't know and being like, oh, that's Jack Nicholson's grandson. That's John C. Reilly's son. You know, it's that. It's funny because, and also it'll happen. as we get older and there's some obviously not you because you have your finger on the pulse of the entertainment biz but like my partner and i we're walking around and they'll be like my like carolyn will be like who the fuck is that i'm like that's charlie pooth and she's like hmm they wanted me to like style him sometime what does he do honestly i don't even know what he does i think he makes music but like He's one of the most famous people in the world. He's famous for... He would just walk by and be like, I don't know. He's only famous for doing more gay betting than we do, but he also does make and write music that is popular. But then the twink from Abbott Elementary walks by and she'll be like, oh my god. I didn't really have any... This guy who has 7,000 followers? I didn't really have any oh my gods, personally. No oh my... Well, let's see. I mean, we had... The amount of former guests... Not even Bo Burnham? Not Bo Burnham. He's very nice, though. He's very nice. Yeah, Bo Burnham showed up with Phoebe. Platonic, of course. Of course. But I don't know. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there was any. You know, my heroes are a little different than maybe. Yeah, you were hoping to see a few more members of the American military force there. Exactly. First responders. You know what? When you guys get to board first, I stand up and fucking clap. Good to see you guys. And let me get you a free drink. That's who I think the man of the year is. U.S. Marines. So you're telling me that this man of the year is some actor? Okay. Not on my watch, boy. That guy has never seen any live AMO. Okay. None. So Carolyn, she met Terry Crews, and she let me know that she was taller than him? Yeah, of course. But it's not of course. I mean, I've tangled with Terry in the Equinox bathroom before.

And he almost comes up to my waist. But when you see him on TV, he looks like fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger. Terry Crews is clearly wider than he is long. True. Wider with a D and a T. Got him! My apologies in advance. Yeah, I mean, Alex was a little more... Alex was weirdly into the push a T thing. And I was like... Who likes Pusha T that much? And I guess it's just Eclipse holdover, which I can kind of relate to. I mean, Pusha T, he's a great rapper, very talented, of course. But there's nothing about, like, if I see Pusha T hanging out, it's just like. He's too available. He's just a guy wearing sunglasses and standing around. He's too available. You don't get the vibe that you, if you go up and be like. What's up, Pusha T? How are you doing? Actually, no. He's not going to be entertaining to talk to. No, I think he might be a pro. I think that's part of the reason that he succeeded in this world. I think it's like he gets all these invites because he's cool and normal. I hope you're right. He was wearing Tom Brown. I think I was wearing Tom Brown. I don't want to say better. No. Well, what happened was he was wearing a great, let's put it in car terms. Okay. A nice drive-it-off-the-lot S500 Mercedes-Benz. Great car. Looks awesome. Yeah. But you're like, okay, it's off the rack. Yeah. But there's not – if we're going to get hardest fit of the night, I want to see a little more – So you're saying that maybe I took it West Coast Customs. You definitely did an extra step of making your own flavor, cutting off the shorts. You know, it's a polar – my DMs, half the people are like, what the fuck? And the other half are like, he low-key freaked it. You know, like at least you're doing something, accessorizing with some crazy things. The eye is drawn to it and not just like, I'm wearing a black suit. Yeah, I think he looks good. He looks great. Of course he looks good. The story of the Tom Brown is great because they sent me both a pair of tailored pants ready to go and a pair of un-hemmed pants that they said, chop them. So I had the option, and I went to Mr. Kim, our tailor over at La Brea Cleaner Shot, to Mr. Kim, and the confusion on his face when I was like,

Cut these off. I tried them on. I was like, all right, cut them off right here. And he's like. As any tailor. He brings out the big shears. And then he clips. And I'm like, all right, bet, bro. Thank you. And he's like, what? We're done? Give me $10. I was like, okay, we're good. He went to go over to the sewing machine. I'm like, no, bro, we're finished. We're finished. They cut up. I mean, put yourself in his shoes. But I feel like if you're a tailor in Hollywood for 30 years, you've probably seen Wilder. I mean, I've seen it all. Yeah, I mean, I think that the... The stuff I have to do to Angeline's clothing just to have it fit. Oh, I can't remember. Do you know what I'm able to do with latex now after all this experience? Mr. Kim has to keep sewing in size 2 tags on the size 14. Yeah, I mean, it was a... It was a fun party, and I think we got, yeah, there's a lot of guests. There's a lot of former How Long Gone guests in the building. Oh, yeah. Writers. Editors. Maggie. I mean, excuse me. Phoebe and Rachel and Jeremy. Fivio. I mean, I'm trying to think. What's his name from GQ who wrote all the stories? Oh, Dan. Dan Riley. Dan was my favorite guy to talk to. He was so awesome I forgot what his name was. Dan's the goat, and the fact that. It was great. Well, because Dan is actually the guy who writes the big profiles on these celebrities. Well, I introduced him to Carolyn, and I was talking to Dan. I was like, oh, what's up? Because we had never met in person. And she's bopping around like, there go that bitch. That's that motherfucker from here. Oh, my God, I love them. I'm like, oh, this is Dan, a regular white guy. And she's like, okay. And I was like, he's the guy that GQ calls. When it's time to write the big shit. Yeah, when it's time to get deep with the F1 driver. And Dan goes, yeah, that's true. That's me. He's like, yeah, Sam Hine can wear his little boaty suits and stuff, but I have to get in there. I'm going toe-to-toe with Oom McGregor on mental stuff. It's different. But the biggest thing, Alex and I were standing there, and we were directly across from the power table.

of courtney kardashian travis barker megan fox machine gun kelly and we were both we just didn't talk for like a full two minutes and i was like these people i don't think these people even know each other like it did megan fox doesn't speak I watched for a full two minutes. They're just flowers that are put in. Or Travis Barker and MGK are like, bro, man, like they're talking because they just make music together. Those two chicks are not talking to each other. They're not talking to anybody. They're just trying to make sure their faces look as good as possible in case someone takes a picture. And I kind of respect it. I mean, I guess I respect the hard work and determination, but it's all for what? Megan Fox doesn't look like Megan Fox. Like Megan Fox literally looks like an OnlyFans chick you see at Starbucks. She looked like any number of just explore page. Yeah, she's an explore page hottie now. Hottie, you know. She's turning into an explore page hottie. But what happened? Is that with plastic surgery where you alter your face so much that you just become a blank? Well, that's the problem with the plastic surgery is that everybody starts to look the same, you know? And at one point, I mean, Megan Fox is not my flavor by any means, but at one point, you know, she's like a smoldering fucking hot actress. And now everybody is trying to look the same. You know, if you get the fillers and the lips and the eye, you know, it's just like, all right. So you come out, she comes out of the womb, look, you know, a perfect sculpture. Yes. And then. You pay somebody millions of dollars to turn this sculpture back into a block of wood. Yeah, it makes no sense. Go from an ice sculpture of a fucking flying bald eagle and turn it into a cube. She literally looks like a chick I would see making too many changes to a smoothie at Erwan. That's literally what she looks like. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I really hate to do this, but Chia, I'm allergic. But you got lit up. I got lit up. Well, I was in the bathroom, speaking of Pierce Brosnan's unfortunate spawn. One of them was wearing head-to-toe leather chrome hearts, and the other one was wearing a velvet blazer or something like that. I don't know. But I was in the restroom at the lovely West Hollywood Edition Hotel, shout out to Shreg, and they kind of bust in. I'm in there washing my hands.

gathering myself for a moment of solace. You need a second before you go shoot your shot. I'm a Virgo. You really wanted to ask Trippie to pass you the blunt, but you needed to kind of make eye contact with Jason and talk to him and kind of get yourself amped up. Make sure Trippie's ready. Make sure you're ready with the 5D and the ring line. and i'm i'm you know drying my hands and they the two sons walk in and they are ecstatic because they smoked some of the weed with trippy oh oh oh oh and one of them one of them was peeing in the urinal the one with the with all the chrome heart shit and the other one was in the mirror and they were talking to each of them were talking to themselves This is what happens, bro. You've got to amp yourself up. It's like main character, team, whatever shit going on. But it was one of the most bizarre situations I've ever been in. And if I was 19 years old, it would be normal for me. But the kid that was peeing, he... I don't know, something involving his zipper or something like that, but he sort of had to pull his pants down in order to use a urinal. His look didn't allow unsheathing his little dong or whatever. So he starts kind of rapping to himself about how he has so much chrome on that he can't pull his pants up. Ha ha ha ha! his chrome his chrome are you saying he's flowing over a beat in his own head or you're saying he's just speaking out loud okay you know you know like that emoji where it's like the guy who's kind of like doing the shrug like one eye like yeah yeah bro face yeah like the the kind of like um stereotypical bro selfie face like kind of thing it was like that but they're all talking to themselves Kind of like when you see a white rapper guy who hangs out at 7-Eleven, just like, oh, you know what I'm saying? Oh, sure. That's so much swag on me. That's a very New York thing. Under the breath, rapping, just walking down the street. Just like, damn, I'm really getting this motherfucking fit off, dog. So it was doing that, and then the other guy was looking at himself in the mirror and sort of narrating how crazy his life is because he just smoked weed.

And then they just basically said that same sentence in different ways of like, I just smoked weed with Trippie Red. And it would be like, yeah, I just smoked gas with Trippie. You know what I'm saying? And these are rich. Yeah, I just got zooted in a motherfucker with Trippie. I'm up to Zaza with Trippie. And they just did it 20 times. So these are rich 20-year-old British children. Yeah, they go to Harvard-Westlake. That have cheekbones that are truly angular. And their night was made not because they, I don't know, had fun or maybe fucked a model or anything. It was because they had smoked weed with a guy who makes Warped Tour rap. Yes. Yes, they smoked weed with a guy who's being currently laughed by a Lil Uzi. To be fair, I mean, that would have made your night too probably. You just wouldn't have had bars about it. We would have talked about it on this podcast instead. Yes. I would have too much pride and something to not do that in public. But the weirdest thing that I saw was the one that was not peeing, he was looking at himself in the mirror. And you know when people, often young women who are taking selfies in the mirror, they'll lift, they'll grab their shoe and lift it up like behind. Like that and show it in the mirror so you can see a shoe as well as the fit in the photo, which is a normal thing to do. When you're taking a selfie, you want to be like, all right, here's my outfit in the bathroom mirror selfie. Maybe I'll put a leg up on the sink so you can see the shoe game. Maybe I'll lift it back behind me. You got to see the Jordans my NBA player got me. Yes. So he was doing that move. He was grabbing his shoe and lifting it up to look at it in the mirror. But there was no camera. There was no selfie. There was no video. And he was posing alone, talking to himself about how he just smoked weed and just doing different poses. And I'm standing there next to him, one foot away, looking at me like, what the flying fuck are you doing? Do they try to interact with TJ at all, or are these guys just in their zone?

A thousand percent. They probably just assumed I was a bathroom attendant. Like they're waiting for me to hand them a paper towel to drive. Yeah, you got mints or like. I don't play this Dyson shit. I just smoke loud. I just smoke loud with trippy, bro. You got any you got any jupe in there? I'm a little funny. You know what I'm saying? So that was that was an eye opening experience to see to see somebody act like when they see a mirror, their brain goes into that mode. This is. i'm watching myself on a tv and i have to be like oh i'm hitting my shots i'm hitting my poses i'm hitting my i'm hitting my motherfucking marks that is that is odd it's odd but it's also not surprising anyway i think the the odd part is that you're so detached from reality that doing that in a public space is not a second thought. There's no governor to stop you. They've never felt embarrassment before. Yeah, well, how could you? You're hot and rich. There's nothing embarrassing. When you're hot and rich, there's nothing you can do. Well, I mean, one day that little fucker is going to wake up and he'll shit his pants or something like that, and he won't know what to do. Yeah, he will. He'll ring the bell, and the attendant will come up and kind of clean his nappy, and then... He'll be able to hop in the marble bath, and he'll be back in it. He'll put on his Margiela robe and kind of be like, is the granola ready? Because, honestly, I'm gassed the fuck up. You're gassed the fuck out. I'm gassed the fuck out, yeah. That's how bad my mental is. Well, you want to know how bad my mental is? Yesterday I woke up and said, what time are we recording? And you're like, bro, it's not. It's not recording. You don't know what day it is. I was so happy when I woke up yesterday. And my girlfriend told me that the day was different. I was like, oh, fuck yeah. Hell yeah, Brock. I had another day of the weekend. This is sick. All right. Let me tell you about the after party. Okay. So just to be clear, this isn't an after party. There was a competing event for Jean-Paul Gaultier going on at the hotel at the same time. I just wanted to – because it's strange that – who would do that? Why would you do a party the same night as this other giant party?

It's confusing. There was a zillion parties that night. There was a Baz Luhrmann birthday at Chateau. I mean, in the same building, though. I guess that makes sense because I think somebody we know was trying to throw an event there, and they were treating them a little bit like, eh, we don't really care about you. And this friend of ours was like, I'm kind of doing you a favor of doing a party at your little janky hotel or whatever. Turns out... Maybe it's the other way around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like we're double booked for the Man of the Year party and the Gautier party. So you stayed. We left at midnight, maybe 1230. Really? Yeah, we stayed pretty late. Oh, God. I was having too much fun chatting. That means that we stayed up much later than I realized. I think. I think. Yeah, so there was the Gautier party going on in the club area. We were in the restaurant area. And a friend of ours. A friend of mine from a long time ago, he works there, and he was sort of walking around the GQ party sort of hand-selecting certain people. This thing's winding down. Come over here. Not unlike how certain people get a white card and a black card. Sure. Certain people from that event were allowed to go down to this Gaultier party where the guest of honor was not Jean-Paul but, in fact, Dua Lipa. Yeah. And how does a fellow like me say no to that? Now, my question is, did you meet her, talk to her, any sort of interaction, or did you merely stand in her presence and bask? So we walked in. Doja Cat ass was playing pool, and I was like, this is going to be a good party. Was Doja throwing that fang back while hitting the eight ball in the corner pocket? Yeah, she was looking pretty good. Yeah. No cap. Dua was there, chilling with no makeup on. She looked great, of course. I did not talk to her, which I did not even attempt to. Was there a man around? She had a little harem of folks, but it didn't seem like there was a romantic interest. They're all gay. Dua Lipa doesn't hang out with guys that aren't gay unless she fucking, is my guess. 1,000%. And there were sort of some people in the crowd that would sort of work up enough nerve to be like...

Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I never do this, but I just have to talk to you for like five minutes or like 11 minutes. And she's very nice, but I didn't want to do any of that. Did my elbow touch her elbow? Who's to say? I did brush past her in an unnecessary way. I could have walked around, but I kind of decided to go through. Stop pushing me to do it, you guys. Stop pushing me. The crowd is so crazy. But there is a DJ playing good, like usually pretty good music. He was playing like some like turnt up. tropical rosalia just like gnarly shit so it was fun to dance and then you know he'd play a bad song and then it'd stop but what how how my fiance and i got into a fight and left this is what i wanted to get to and i had forgotten unfortunately until now So you guys are drunk as hell, which usually leads to a fight if it's late night. Sure. We don't have anything to straighten us out. You went to the wrong drive-thru, and she's fucking pissed off. So Del Taco isn't the issue now. What is? This is the issue. We were hanging out, and there was a guy that I had talked to at a few times throughout the party. You know, just like, oh, hey, what's up? You know, it's like tight quarters. You walk past somebody a bunch of times, and maybe you'll make a comment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoever it may be. Sure. We ran into a couple people from White Lotus, and my girlfriend was like, oh, my God, I'm sorry. I just have to tell you, you guys are so amazing right now. And they're like, oh, my God, thank you so much. You're so sweet. You know, what's your name, Bubba? I had a moment with this guy a few times, and he's the guy who plays Magic Johnson on the show. on the lakers hbo show first of all this is only funny because you're the only person i know on earth who watched this show and kept telling me how good it was so for you to bill with this guy i'd be like who the fuck is this like i don't know who this guy is exact well here's the thing i talked to him three or four times and didn't even realize who it was oh okay okay okay okay so we had we i just thought it was just like you know you're just one of the

Countless people here who has a cool actor job and I've never seen the weird show you run or whatever. Turns out I have seen the weird show he's on a bunch of times, but I've only seen him wearing like 1979 style clothing. Sure. So when he's in his Burberry tux, you don't... I mean, he's not passing you a drink or anything, so you know that he's there to party. If I didn't have 11 tequilas in me, then I would have been like, oh, there goes that motherfucker. I love your work, blah, blah, blah. So he was just building with you on some, like, we're at the same party. Yes. We're meant to be here. We can chat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The same way that I'll talk to an editor or a writer or whatever, PR person, like, hey, blah, blah, blah. We're having a chit-chat, whatever. We're in the club, and we're dancing, and then I tell Carolyn, like, wait a minute. This guy that I've talked to a few times already tonight, that's the fucking guy who plays Magic Johnson on winning time, HBO's winning time. Which winning time, again, no one watched it, but it seems like Magic Johnson's probably a big character. He is sort of the... It's him and Adrian Brody are kind of the two main guys, I would say. But yeah, he's the star player of the Lakers. I don't like where this is going. Once you bring up Brody, I don't like where this is going. Thank God it doesn't involve Brody. So I'm like... I'm telling Carolyn, like, that's that motherfucker. I'm winning time, blah, blah, blah. I've talked to him a bunch of times tonight. I got to go over and be like, oh, shit, I didn't realize this was you. You're my fam. And she's like, don't do that. I'm going to do that. Because she loves winning time. And she loves this guy. in a way that's different than I might be a fan. Sure, I can understand the love being a little different. Very handsome guy. Of course. Tall, he has to play a professional basketball player. Sure, so it's like, once again, the better version of TJ, almost, some would say. In many ways. Aside from the HIV. Yeah, aside from the fake HIV. That's the only place I've got him to meet. He's got the movie theaters and all that stuff. So I go over there, we spend it, you know.

Let's say 90 seconds. I don't want to take up his time, but I was like, oh, my God. I had no idea this was you. I'm a big fan of the show. You did such a great job. You did an amazing job playing this specific person. I actually live around the corner from Jerry West's son. He mentioned that he thinks the show is a nightmare and he's trying to sue you guys, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, that's what we have in common. I just wanted to say what's up, big fan. Keep doing your thing. Dapping him up. And we're back on the dance floor listening to. Chicken teriyaki. Yeah, of course. I'm going about my business. Your night has moved on. And then my bitch says, my turn now. And it sort of turns into, in her mind, it was a competition. Well, I'm just going to say, based on what I've heard so far, that she's going to win this competition, and hopefully she doesn't win it too well. In lies our problem. So I did not know that it was a competition. But, I mean, if the competition is doing a good job at telling somebody whose work you admire that they did a great job, get in and get out. I'm thinking this competition is a little different than that, though, maybe. She's in the club, and her whole mind goes back to whole times. And it's like I see a famous hot celebrity in the club. And it's a competition and I'm going to win. Sure. And you're like, I wasn't even trying to suck. Like I was just telling this guy I liked his little TV show. That's your chick. I'm not trying to side bus. I don't want, I'm not going to homie hop with you. This is, this is all platonic, whatever. Sure. She goes and she goes and does her thing. I'm dancing around for a couple of minutes. And I look back and she is talking to him like. You know. You can tell that this has gone a different way than maybe you would hope to. She has a different look in her eye. And there's maybe. She's got that dog in her. She has the dog in her. And he might say a joke that's not that funny. And she is. She's throwing her head back. The tequila's hitting. There's a hug. There's a hug happening. Let me get my hug. Their arms are sort of interlocked behind each other's backs at this point. He's got the low back.

You know, his hands are nice and big, too, so he's got the whole thing. And I'm looking at him. I didn't go over there and be like, what the fuck, bitch? Sure. But I let it finish, and I was like, what's going on over here? You guys are getting pretty close and blah, blah, blah. You know, it wasn't a real actual fight. Sure. But it was kind of like a, we're not really trying to, is this really happening? I'm not in competition with you to try to fuck the guy who plays Magic Johnson. She wasn't actually trying to have sex with him, but she was like, you thought you were going to get this one, but you didn't get this one. So she won. So in a shocking turn of events, a hot drunk chick was able to gain the affection of a male actor at a party better than you could. Yes, yes, yes. And that's breaking news. That's something that I wouldn't have expected to see. I hope all of our listeners are sitting down. In the year of our Lord. He was more into her than me. So she won. Okay. And have you gotten kind of paid back for this misbehavior? No. Interesting. So there's not a fresh plate of cookies steaming or maybe like your laundry's folded extra nice or something? She did tint my windows the very next day, 12 hours from then. See, that's what I like about Carolyn. She throws money at the problem just like I would. She's like, he doesn't want some little home love shit. He doesn't want a toppy. He wants windows tinted. But also, she doesn't remember any of this, you know? Of course, but I'm sure you were able to tell her in detail. I may have remound her. You're like, hold on, let me pull up my notes app. I have some timestamps. Where were you at 2.17 a.m. on Thursday? I guess it would be Friday morning. Technically, Friday morning. My records show something different, actually. Yeah, actually. I witnessed the litness, and I must say that's different. I love that. Damn, that's so funny. So now we're recovered. Yeah, on Friday, what did we do? We went to...

Stussy Drees. Oh, yeah, Stussy Drees at the Stussy Drees store. What a tantalizing collection of denim jackets that have airbrush mushroom on them. You don't understand the Belgian take on California streetwear, and I don't expect you to. I understand California streetwear. You do. I don't understand Belgium that much. No, I understand. I mean, who does? It's kind of that. Just Emil is the only one. Yeah, he's the only one. We got to build with the homies over there. I saw Hamish, my shooter, and Jason had a taco. And then we went to Jeezy's for a late night, a little 9 p.m. dinner. That's how fucked up our week was. Chris Black willingly... Chris Black made a reservation at a restaurant for 9 p.m. I know, because it was the only way to do it. And it had nothing to do with an iCal time zone thing where he thought it was 6 or 4.45, which is his normal dining time. No, no, no. So we went and Nomi was doing a talk with an artist at Karma. Don't bro me if you don't know me. So we went to that. Then we met you at Stussy Drees, and then we had to go to the new pub, The Chap. The Clap. The clap opening. And between that, there was a window for dinner. And that was the window we had to take. Bro, I pulled up to the chap. I said, bartender, pour me up a fat Guinness pint. And he did. And it was a good, it was a solid Guinness. And there was a cover band. This is a twist. This is like a giant British pub in the middle of Hollywood. And it had a cover band that featured a member of Dropkick Murphy's. That's not, that's true. That makes perfect sense. Sebastian, our friend Sebastian, who's in charge of it, got Jason a pint, and then we stood there and watched. It's just so crazy how Hollywood works. I've only lived here. I've been coming here for a long time, and I've been to many Hollywood nightclub establishments with you and other friends. The fact that I was seeing people that I recognized as just like, damn you are still in the fucking club bitch you look 150 years old how are you still people say about me how are you still doing this like giving hugs to promoters i'm like damn this is dark no i never did i feel so happy that i live in suburbia in glendale where i'm sort of and i want to say this shit was lit it was lit it was a they did an amazing job with the space no it's really it was evan funky does

Did the food menu. What? Mushy peas, fish and chips, Sunday roast. I get the haggis from Big Dog? You get the haggis from Big Dog. What do you think Funky's beans taste like, though? His baked beans? Yeah, what do you think Funky's beans? Yeah, Funky, could you imagine him waking up at 6 a.m.? I got to go do a brunch shift, beans on toast in Hollywood and Coanga. God, sorry, babe. I got to do a proper fry up before I hit the pasta station tonight at Mother Wolf. I have a feeling I don't know if he's doing beans from scratch. If he is, I commend you. But you can't really do anything better than a Heinz 57. So the real tea on the chap, though, is that they got it open in time for the Cursed World Cup that I know a lot of you nerds like to watch. But I've been told by a friend of the show, Rory Phillips, that they have booked an Oasis cover band for Friday, England versus USA, which... Honestly, I might have to go check out. Let's go. It should be fun. Oh, yeah, I'm going to be out of town. Never mind. It should be fun. I'll be sampling Malbecs in the Napa Valley. Yeah, that's good for you. Damn, that would be sick. I know. It's a great idea. Just go to a Hollywood nightclub on a Friday night, Thanksgiving weekend. It's going to be super. Dude, that's going to be insane, actually. Yeah, it's going to be insane. It's so smart. Do you know what time of day it's going to happen now? Oh, good point. I hope it's not one of those. I love all my friends that post the 6 a.m. Up for the footy. Guinness at Cafe Select. That's a common photo in my feed. I don't know what time. I can look into that. But it's not going to be late. It'll obviously be middle of the day, most likely. Catter time? Mm-hmm. But then we ended the night. oh yeah at a very special it's can't talk about it oh we can't no oh okay no no that night never happened i thought we just couldn't take pictures no we can't talk about okay that's fine no that's cool i agree but i was talking to carolyn about it like i love that in 2022 certain people who care about things like that made something and everyone agrees that we don't talk about it we don't photograph it so it's like this little

Figment over our imaginations where you're like, did we even do that? Did it even happen? And that's the coolest stuff. I agree. You're right. Most fun I had all week. Most fun I had all week by far. Just sitting in a beep doing beep. And shout out to our new friends in Gustav. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to get Gustav on the pod. Gustav's coming on the pod. They were really fun. And the music is good. Check them out if you haven't. Yeah, that's right. But speaking of World Cup, I was doing some research on reading on all the rules in Qatar. Or is it Qatar or Qatar? Qatar. Why were you doing that? Because, I don't know. It was just, well, like, I was just watching, like, a FIFA documentary in the sauna. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about. It was just, like, FIFA is the most corrupt organization in the entire world. They totally destroyed the whole business. I don't know, it was, like, less than five years ago or something like that, like 17, 2018, something like that. fully exposed as this giant billionaire scandal operation, blah, blah, blah. And then here we are in 2022 and everyone's like, yeah, just keep doing it. We don't care. Like that part. No one gives a shit. No one gives a shit. But I was reading an article and they're talking about how the ticket sales are low. The streets are empty. They had, they basically reorganized the entire infrastructure of the city, built hotels, widened streets. You know, like upgraded airports and all that stuff. People are like, I'm going to watch this on TV. I'm all set. Because they're interviewing people that actually live there, like cab drivers, service workers. It's a lot of people that work in hotels and businesses and things like that. And everyone who lives in the city as a service worker or whatever, they're like, nobody goes outside because it's not worth it. Because there's so many rules, so many restrictions. It's literally if I get married and I go on my honeymoon in Qatar, I can't hold hands with my wife in public or I'll go to jail. Well. And that's just one pedal on the flower. It's very hot there too. So maybe they don't go outside because they like the AC. It's very hot there. And they have outdoor air conditioning. Yeah, that's sick. Which I guess is pretty sick. But I mean like if you, you know.

It's similar to Singapore in some of those ways. We're going to cane your ass if you spit on the concrete. Yeah, and we're not even talking about any, you know, you can't be gay, you can't be trans, you can't be anything. Soccer, football traditionally is, you know, people are getting kind of rowdy and maybe doing things that the government over there wouldn't approve of. So people are just like, you're not allowed to drink there. Yeah, it's like I'm all set. I mean, obviously, the way they got the World Cup is they wrote a giant corrupt check. Of course. And everybody knows that. But if it's not well attended, that's going to look bad. Well, that's the only thing that people can do to protest this because they love – I mean, like every professional sports organization, NASCAR, NFL, they're all corrupt. They're all fucked up. They're all on the take. But we don't mind it because we love and require sports or else we'll all kill each other and burn this world down. soccer is the most, football is the most popular sport in the world, so we need something like this, but there's no point. I mean, everyone will say yes to a check, but you have to have a line at some point. We all have a line. Yeah. You know what I mean? They don't. They have to, though. They knew this was going to be bad. They knew this. But also, at what point does FIFA need more money? It's just like a pissing competition between seven elites, right? I don't think it's FIFA. I think it's the personal. Like, I don't think FIFA, the organization, is getting these checks cut the way that maybe some of the independent members of the board of directors are maybe getting. Well, I mean, it's trickled down and laundered throughout, you know. Myriad organizations. No, of course. Yeah, if you don't have a shell company, you're broke. That's off top. Bro, I got 12 shells. Off top, no. I'm not talking about your graffiti writer, Arteryx. I'm talking about real shell. I got all the flavors, baby. I got my offshore orange windbreaker. Offshore orange, that's the new color. But at a certain point, it's just like, what?

This is football. We need 100,000 people in a stadium, sculling beers and screaming and going crazy. And they're like, okay, let's find the one place in the entire world where you cannot do any of that, and let's do that there. No, you're right. What's the fucking point? Get a fat check from any other country. I think what people are doing, what Jacob, my friend Jacob that was here, that we worked together, he's going to Brazil. during the World Cup because it's going to be so lit and so fun. And he's like, no one needs to go. You don't even need to go there because you can watch it in a stadium with 50,000 people and get twisted in the country. It's so big that you don't need to go. So you can watch from home. Yeah. You can work from home and watch from home. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. You can go get your Airbnb in Mexico City and kind of do your little nomad thing. We watched the Super Bowl in Mexico City last year. Oh. That is the most anti-American bullshit I've ever heard you say on this podcast. It was at the Four Seasons. That doesn't make any better. I know it's not that nice. It's just American property, though. I felt like I was on U.S. soil, like an embassy. Like when you cross over customs in Canada and you're in the U.S.? Let me get a cheeseburger, hot dog, french fry. I'm sorry, sir. We only have guacamole here. No, they did a selection of American items for us white devils. I'm sure those mini hot dogs were delish. All the white people adaptations that they created were truly awful. So fucking bad. Like, bro, this is the Four Seasons Day. But, yeah, I like that people are protesting and not going to it. But I think that that's such a good idea. Just go to Brazil where they love soccer. Yeah, it's going to be lit. The big stadium in Qatar where they have the final match, 80,000-seat stadium. They're going to play seven matches in it. And after World Cup is done, they tear the whole thing down. They built an 80,000 person stadium. I have to say I love that. I have to say I love that. Even if you create it out of recycled materials? It's still not yet. How many thousands of people died making that? It's like building a pyramid. Look, they pumped a lot of money to the local economy by hiring, I'm sure, local workers to build that. And I think that that's kind of how you have to look at it, Jason, instead of your little negative attitude. Okay? There may have been.

migrant worker abuse there? I don't know. I don't know either, and that's why I'm not going to speak on that. And that's why I'm never going to go to Qatar. I'm sure it was on your list. Look, there's a lot of places where it's just a pile of dirt and tumbleweeds I can go to here in California. I don't need to go to Qatar. That's half of California. It's a beautiful state. I noticed that you saw Steve Jobs' Birkenstocks were sold for $200,000, and you were wondering who would pay for that? Yeah. I was off the edible, and I was thinking, that's a steal at $200,000. This sounds like this is worse than NFTs. Well, this is an NFT, if you ask me. Okay, so you tell me how these dirty Birkenstocks that need to be recorked and resold are Beeples. I do have a great guy in Pasadena. How are they Beeples? Okay, so. The way that time sort of compounds and moves exponentially. Okay, I'm out. In 25 years from now, we'll sort of be like the equivalent of 300 years from now. You know what I mean? Sure. Because of, yes, we've, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. So I feel like in 25 years or so, let's say 20, 25 years, the way that technology and AI and machine learning and all this stuff will take over and sort of be our overlords, whether we like it or not or realize it or not. and Steve Jobs will sort of become kind of a god, you know, because he's created all of this. Yeah. So he's going to be a god. No, he'll be Jesus Christ. Okay. I like all of this. So imagine in 2020 right now, 2022 right now, there was a museum that has Jesus Christ's... Air Force Ones or whatever they were. The Christ Ones. So you're saying the Natural History Museum has the Christ Ones. They're cooked, of course. They're not mint. So you're saying that Steve Jobs is going to be exalted a la Christ and that this $200,000 investment will pay dividends because it will be acquired by a museum or other private collection. Let's say it's 2022. Okay.

And someone's like, oh, I found in my – I was cleaning out my parents' garage. And what do you know? I found Jesus Christ's shoes. How much would Jesus Christ's shoes cost in 2020? Well, first of all – It would be in the billions, right? Well, first of all, if he was wearing shoes, it would clearly be sandals. It was a different time. Let's say his footwear. So it's Jesus' Nike slides. And Jesus – Hugo Boss shower slippers that he got at TJ Maxx. So Jesus' Nike slides. Yeah, I mean, look. It would be in the billions. But I just think that maybe – I agree with you that Steve Jobs is an important person to nerds. I don't think he is going to have quite the same touch as Jesus Christ just because there's not like a Bible element to the whole thing. So I think we've got to take the price down just a little bit. Well. Brother, I'm holding right now an iPhone 14 Pro. This is pissing and shitting on a Bible. I agree. The Bible sucks compared to an iPhone. No question. So what I'm saying, in 25 years with the exponential time, growth, blah, blah, blah, the Bible will be nothing to anyone. Religion won't matter anymore, and Steve Jobs will be Jesus. That is not true. Do not do that. Steve Jobs will not be the God because there's Jesus Christ. There's Allah. Every religion has their – Sure, but he will be what? He will be the Courtney or the Courtney of, like, if Kris Jenner is God. Okay. Kim. Kim is God. Okay, Kim is God. Courtney is Jesus. Chloe is Allah. No, Courtney is more of just one of the disciples. Oh, damn. No offense to Chloe. Okay. But I think that you're, I think that you. So I'm just saying $200,000. Yeah, look, I think that the investment is found. In 25 years, that'll be worth two. A trillion dollars. No, they won't. There will be an auction of those shoes in 20 years. In 25 years, $1 billion won't be that much money. I don't know what you think you know about finances and stuff because that's not really your strong point. That's not really your thing. So maybe I would like to talk to an inflation expert about this stuff instead of you. Well, the inflation experts...

you can go back in time and see and predict, like, well, this is how much growth has happened here, but sort of the way that... You're going on gut. No, I'm not going on gut, but, like, there's science and data for, like, the exponential growth of, like, computer processing is, like, a big example that people like to use of, like, well, if this has, if from 1960 to 1980, we grew this much, and then it just goes boom, boom, and then once we're in the zone now where it's taking... straight-up vertical leaps into off-the-grid territory, and I think money will not be that crazy, but the processing power and speed of money in general will be insane. I think you're probably right. I also think that buying another man's used shoes is just kind of not some shit I'm into, and I'll find another way to make money. Okay. What if... Liam Gallagher's Samba's Game Worn on Wembley. If I'm a billionaire and I'm spending 200 racks on Steve Jobs shoes, that's the equivalent of buying a Hailey Bieber smoothie. No, but it's too simp. It's too simp to buy another man's shoes. So it's the shoes specifically. No, I'm not buying. You have some memorabilia from bands and famous people that you like probably. Yeah, but I don't. But the shoes. No, it's not even the shoe. It's like this is – I bought a lot of notable people's underwear and socks. I know that you're a big sock guy. No, I find it – I think it's more like I don't think that – the intentions weren't pure. This was purchased strictly to flip, and I don't like that. That's what I don't like about it. You hate a flipper? I hate flippers. No offense, Tim, but I just don't like... So this is nothing more than a common streetwear flip. This is literally a grailed move, and I'm not here for it. I think if you truly love someone and something and you want a piece of ephemera or an artifact to remind you of them because it makes you feel good and you want to have that in your house, by all means. Okay, so I think that you appreciate a wise business investment, but not when it comes to...

personal effects and ephemera is that where the drawing i think i think this feels it just feels i also i mean of course buying a famous person but like you know like somebody has elton john's like sequin dodger uniform that's yeah bro that's elton john like that motherfucker did something steve jobs is like a nerd who made some phones like i don't care about that i use it i'm appreciative of him elton john made some songs that are good steve jobs If I get to choose... One could argue Steve Jobs has accomplished more and will leave a greater... Oh, yeah, all that, but for my money, bro, I'm buying Elton's jockstrap, you know what I mean, before I'm buying Steve Jobs' Burks. I mean, it's odd for you to not put the money first, but I like that... I just don't find... I just can't fetishize businessmen versus artists. I think it's very strange. I know people consider Steve Jobs to be an artist. And I think he's a genius who revolutionized our modern society, no question. I think your signed copy of the CAA Powerhouse book would lead me to believe otherwise, Chris. But I'm not going to wrap my dick in Steve's Issey Miyake turtleneck and jerk off. I don't care that much. Look, you do it once, you get it clean, and then you flip them on grail. I just don't. These are the rules. I don't know. I just don't find it. I don't know. I just think it's like. Where do we draw the line? And also there's a history of that with music, obviously with music memorabilia and guitar, the whole thing. If we start doing this, it's like, oh, I have Elon Musk fingernail clippings. I'm going to put him on eBay. I guess that's not my point. My point is more like it's an interesting and exciting time that we live in right now where we have the money, we have the technology, and we have the resources and the brain power that somebody is going to be like, there's a good chance that Steve Jobs or any of these people are going to be a famous person or whatever. And we can, like somebody probably owned, you know, if you believe in Jesus, which I don't, but if somebody believed in Jesus and they're like, there go Jesus Christ. He just died. They're going to put him on the cross. They took his shoes off and his rollies on the ground.

I'm going to low-key snatch that real quick and hold it. Damn, bro, I got Jesus' chain. It's crazy. There was some point where somebody was in possession of Jesus Christ's personal items, but the technology wasn't there and the know-how and the whatever wasn't there to preserve them for centuries or millennia. But you realize how unimportant this is. What I'm saying is this isn't an artifact. The reason someone would pay... It's not now. That's why it's a good investment now. It's not ever. When people buy a guitar or a game-used helmet or ball, it's because it was involved. This Stratocaster wrote this song. This was Mickey Mantle's 500th home run ball. Steve Jobs went to Blue Bottle and these fucking flip-flops. What if these were the Birkenstocks that Steve Jobs died in trying to pick his last piece of fruit off of a tree? I guess maybe, but I... Price going up. So you're saying there needs to be an action or... I need to know that this motherfucker was in the lab, like, putting... Like, with the tweezers, making the first iPod. Well, I was... Okay, okay. I think also the fact that the... Like, he owned thousands of possessions, but nobody cares about those. It's like, this was Steve Jobs' last pair of toothpicks or his... Yeah. Whatever it is. But the Birkenstocks that somebody owns for years or decades, it becomes a part of a body. And also, stuck on this one, in 25 years, our DNA capturing technology, science and biology will be able to extract some Steve Jobs micro DNA 3.0912 from the grains of this Birkenstock soul or whatever. Leather footbed. The footbed, the cork, whatever it is, Jurassic Park style, forever embalmed in his weird fruitarian cancer sweat. They pull it out. Elon is reproducing an army of Steve Jobses. I see. They begin eating their young, and we have to put them down. This is a future that I hopefully am dead for. You won't be dead in 25. I might be. We will. We will be. I haven't done that much damage. I've done a lot of course correction.

But I would like to die before someone is recreating Steve Jobs. It's a fun idea on paper. I mean, I agree with you. Hopefully we never have to see any of this. It's a fun idea for someone. Steve Jobs' Birkenstocks will, of course, then become an NFT 3.9Q or whatever. So I was listening on the way here to Gary Vee on Tim Dillon. And Gary Vee was like, I do believe. that there are NFT artists that are going to be collected like Pollock, like Basquiat, like Warhol, Beeple. He named a handful of NFT artists that I have never heard of and claiming that these, there's only a few. There's only a few. Most of it's trash, but there's a few that are going to be looked at like these legends of our time. There's a few. This one guy who made Steve Aoki look like a Pokemon where he drew it on his iPad. And then he was talking about his line of NFTs as well. So it felt promotional, but I just. Oh, that doesn't sound very Gary Vito. I know. It's crazy. He thinks that the NFTs that he sells himself are in the member. No, no, he doesn't. No, he was just saying that he was saying that he believes that this is NFTs and crypto and Web3 is the same thing as like when the Internet came. And there were deniers, and people weren't ready for it, and whatever. I don't disagree with all of that. What? I don't disagree with all of that. There's still a chance that it could become a big thing. I don't disagree with all of it either, but I mean, bro, a year ago, that's all anybody could talk about, like it was going to save the world, and now these guys are fucking living in their van because they went all in. It's still too early to tell. On some fake shit they saw on a wallet on an app. I saw, I mean, look, I'm sure it's going to be fine. Like it's all G, but like. That's why all this stuff is so fun to watch because truly nobody knows. I mean, I guess. All right. Somebody was like, damn, bro. I invented askjeeves.com. I invented bing.com. It's about to shit on. At one point, bing.com was a better product than google.com. Yeah.

I remember that. Where are we at now? Now Google's the biggest company in the fucking world. I bet Bing guy walked off with a nice little check. It could have been a bigger check. Well, it always could be a bigger check. How long gone? No, we're back with more podcasts this week. Don't worry. We would never take Thanksgiving off because it's a fake holiday built in the backs of the Native American community. My people. But we do want to say, I think we've said on the pod before, but December 15th in Seattle at Madame Luz, we are being joined by a friend of the show, comedian Andy Haynes. That's a mid-ticket alert. We have a medium amount of tickets sold. It will sell out, of course. It will sell out, of course. Andy is from Seattle, so we're going to give him a nice, healthy guest list if he does give me cash. And we'll figure it out. We'll get the room packed no matter the fuck what. But yeah, look, that's it. I'm exhausted. It's been a long week of socializing. Thank you guys for listening to this podcast. No one is going to give you this kind of on-the-ground party reporting like DJ Them Jeans and your friend Chris Black. Thank you guys. You love me.